Revisiting Tube Recommendations for Cayin TA-30


My appologies if this has already been beaten to death! :)

I hope you all are up for this post! I'll owe you all big time!

I have a Cayin TA-30 (purchased in '03) with mods from Paul that included the sub out. It has been connected to B&W Nautilus 803's and a B&W ASW800. I have a Sony XA9000ES as my cd/sacd player.

I replaced them all once from Paul with EL34's, 12AU7's, and 12AX7's tubes, from EH. Simply put, the TA-30 just doesn't come close to sounding as good as the stock tubes did. It, to me, sounds so flat and not open like it used to. I bias the tubes about every 90 days to keep them running at their best.

So now come the questions.

1st. The broad question I have is I need to replace the tubes again, and I want to replace them all, but there are soooo many options and choices and I'm really not interested in "tube rolling", though I know I really should be. Where does one start? I'm overwhelmed!

2nd. The TA-30, I see, can accommodate my types of tubes. Is a KT88 "brighter" or better, or should I stay with EL34's like it's called for? Should optional tubes be used on the front end? Is the TA-30 "pushed" to much using these other tubes?

3rd. Since I have the TA-30 connected to the sub, should I focus only on mids and highs for tubes?

4th. Is there a source out there where I can get this information without bothering you all? I googled some variations, but just haven't had luck. Is it just me, or are all the tube reviews done on guitar amps, not home audio amps?

Well, wasn't that a mess??? :)

Thanks in advance to you all! I hope this thread can become a resource for all us TA-30 users!

Regards,
Bob
bstromberg1

Showing 9 responses by johnbonn

In the ax slots try the Sylvania 5751 3 mica's with either the bugle boys or RFT's in the au slots. EL34's for single ended winged c's well for all use winged c's are a good choice unless you want to spend some bucks for Mullards NOS or RFT's..... Enjoy the music!
Mikirob educate me on the 6n3c-e tubes? Are they direct replacement? What bias do you run them? Can they be run in the older non bybee modded integrateds mine you have to pull the bottom plate off to bias, heard the modified ones have more adjustment for other tubes than EL34's? Anything else have to be done to run them? Can they be run in single ended mode? How many watts is it then? Thank you
Mikirob thank you for the information I will check it out. Anyone out there using the 6n3c-e in an unmodified Cayin TA30 I would like to hear your takes. Thank you
Mikirob thank you for looking that up for me. I will check your sources and information. Really hope so from what I have seen everyone really likes the 6n3c-e tubes. I have the front end sounding great and have tried all kinds of EL34 tubes and really enjoy what I am hearing but like all of us if it can get better that is what I am after. And if there is anyone out there using them in the Cayin with first hand experience please let me know. Thank you
Mikirob what did you bias them to? And is there a specific brand? I got up with Jim and he said he would get back to me in a week or so. Sounds like exactly what I am after. Appreciate the input. Thank you
Mikirob thank you for all the information, a lot of information! Jim got back to me and said he has no idea if they would be compatible. So maybe someone part of the audiogon group will have some experience with the tubes. Thank you
Did he mention the 6n3ce? Anyone try them in a Cayin TA30 if so what are you biasing too. How do they sound and what tubes for the front end? Thank you
Yeh rub it in guys unfortunately I have an older one that is me biasing. If anyone has input on the bias setting I would really appreciate the input. And if anyone is running them in the older unit please give me your thoughts. Thank you
Thank you for getting back to me, so you are saying the 6L6 is the same as the 6n3ce setting? Have you tried the 6n3ce tubes? Thank you