Review: VH Audio Flavor 4 Power cord


Category: Cables

My original goal was to try to purchase 2 cords for my Thor monos. My original choices to consider were Virtual Dynamics,Ridge Street Audio and Silent Source. After window shopping for a bit I realized I couldn't afford 2 cords of the companies mentioned so, my choice was to forget it or try something more affordable to me. My system sounded great but I seem to get this uncontrolable urge evey once in awhile to upgrade,so I decided to investigate more affordable options.
After reading many reviews I decided to try VH Audio.I asked Chris ( owner ) about which "Flavor" would be my best option and he mentioned the Flavor4.
My music listening amounts to mostly piano jazz,female jazz singers and some other various jazz stuff.
Right off the cords aounded very out of sinc and dark.
After aprox. 10 hours things changed big time. Much better detail and very nice mids but still a little dull. At about 30 hours the difference is amaizing.
Depth is incredible.Detail is a better but ,has an uncanny level definition.Every sound is crystal clear and sharply defined with still has great weight and pace.
The words and instuments seem to just float forever. I am currently at about 40 hours and improving all the time. I was told 200-300 hours and it may take me 6 months to get there but wanted to let every one no what a bargian the cords are. I will do a follow up at a latter date when I no for sure they are all broken in....

Associated gear
Kharma 1.0 spkrs- Thor Audio TPA Monos-T1000 linestage-Meridian 508-24 cd-
wires Ridge Street Poeima i/cs and sp.cables

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Showing 3 responses by sean

These cords put to use very simple and commonly understood factors of electrical conductivity. Why other companies have such a hard time of doing or understanding this, i don't know. There are ways to improve the design of this cable even further, and i've discussed some of this with Chris. Having said that and at this price point on the commercial market, they are a very good basic power cord.

As far as break in goes, you have to draw very high levels of current for an extended period of time. Most of what we are "breaking in" is the actual dielectric of the cable. This occurs primarily from thermal stress but may also be somewhat influenced by the electron interaction itself. I'm not a metalurgist though and i don't play one on TV either : )

With the above in mind, finding a device that pulls very sizable amounts of steady state current on a regular basis, and one that actually cycles off and on, can provide a viable alternative to just hooking it to your system and forgetting about it.

Personally, i think that a long and strong current draw should be applied to the cabling being "broken in". After a period of time, the current load should be cycled off an on at random intervals. This causes the dielectric to shift and stabilize to what should be its final settling point. That is, unless further thermal stress greater than the stress already applied is encountered.

Personally, I have electronic devices that pull in excess of 150 amps of current. Given that i can regulate the current draw of these devices, i can vary the amount of current that i want to pass through the cabling feeding it. The set-up that i have makes it easy for me to use a PC to feed these items, whether singularly or daisy chained together. Setting the component to draw a steady 10 - 20 amps when it can dissipate 150+ amps places no thermal stress on the component itself whereas PC's are "cooked" quite thoroughly in a short period of time. After all, power cords connected to a standard audio component, even on amps, only supply current as it is needed. This is typically quite low in level and varies on a dynamic basis, making the process take quite a long time. Ramming current through it on a steady state basis is equivalent to hundreds of hours of dynamic current draw that one would encounter during listening sessions.

After doing this a few times and checking various cables, the very obvious weak point in all of those that i've checked has been the actual IEC and AC plug connections. Due to the lack of conductivity where the cables join the connectors at both ends, there is a LOT of thermal loss ( heat ) generated at those points. If one can improve the connections and conductivity, it stands to gain that the performance of the cable should improve on the whole. Bob Crump has made mention of this in some of his posts and spoken of soldering the connections rather than relying on the crimping or clamping action that most cables make use of. Those that are into DIY'ing and / or adventurous with their "expensive" after-market cords might want to experiment with this a bit. Sean
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Listener: Never worked with the Walker stuff, so i have no idea as to whether it would improve the performance or not. From what i gathered, it is basically some type of conductive grease with silver particles imbedded in it. Given that one would already have metal to metal contact with the wires being "crushed" by the clamping action of the AC power jack and compression fitting of the IEC connectors, the only possible benefit that i could see would be the "conductive grease" filling in the gaps. How beneficial this would be would depend on just how conductive the "grease" was and how much current it could pass under load.

If the Walker stuff isn't "conductive grease" or something similar in concept, disregard the above speculation.

Tvad: I don't know if all of Bob's power cords are soldered OR if Chris solders his products either. Bob mentioned soldering the connections when he was originally "donating" the info to others on how to make the DIY "Asylum cord". Whether or not this idea carried over to his HSR or silver power cables, i can't recall. Wouldn't be too hard to figure out though : ) Sean
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That's a good point Chris. Bob likes to use the Schurter's, which may be why he wants to solder rather than crimp.

As to soldering vs crimping, i think that a lot of this has to do with how good of a connection that one can make with a crimp and the actual contact area of the crimp. The poorer the connection and the less contact area, the more that the connection will benefit from soldering. Even then, how good this works will be up to how well one can solder and the type and quantity of solder used. For ease of use and fantastic "flowability", Wonder Solder is my suggestion to those that want to try this. Those that are more experienced with soldering may want to try something like Cardas or WBT solder. Sean
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