kenyt- i am fascinated by the fact that you heard these speakers at CES with a ml-390s cd player. and they sounded great. am i missing something here? that cdp is "ancient history" as far as everyone is concerned. except for me since i have one and it sounds like music through another very revealing set of speakers as well. i wish people would pay more attention to comments like yours before deciding if it didn't come out in the last 3 years it isn't any good.