Researching the CD/HDCD Players from China


I have gotten 40 plus responses regarding CD players built in China. However, the more research I've done It appears to me that most CD players and many other audio pieces are made in China or in Japan. I recall back in the early 1960's working as an audio salesman, we not only carried hi end audio equipment, but table radios and certain consoles. I would always steer customers away from anything made in Japan. That was my mindset back then and remained so for some years.

Now it appears that this is the same mindset of many audio buffs regarding anything made in China. Much of my restarch as been trying to find high quality CD players that are built well and can render classical choral and orchestral as well as jazz small and big bands well. In particular it must be able to give me a good presentation of the human voice in song. Plus it must be able to render an wide sound field throwing music outside of the speakers. And there must be sufficient height to the sound field as well. I am also particular about being able to pick out each jazz instrument and/or voice from within the sound field.

I have heard (for short periods)an Original 2008 Mk2, a Shenda SD100S, Doge 6, and a Bada HD23. All of these players produced a very pleasent sound. However, my primary concerned is with "LONGEVITY" and being able to improve on the sound with tube changes, upgrades, etc.

Finally, the reason I've spent time researching these and other CD/HDCD players has to do with funding. I don't have a large amount of $$$ to spend, but still want hi end sound. This may be a foolish notion, but that's what I am looking for. I understand that there are some HDCD CD's now on the market. Has anyone heard any and is the sound quality superior to the redbook CD's? By the way, the rest of my system will consist of the following:
1. Elite Rock turntable with Excalibur arm (Sumiko cart)
2. Audio Research Pre-Amp
3. Threshold S/300 power amp
4. Mirage OM-9 Omni (soon to be upgraded to Mags 1.6)
5. Various Kimber Cables
I have many classical and jazz LP's i've collected over the years especially many from Germany. I may have just as many redbook CD's. I plan to purchase HDCD's if they can present better sound than my redbooks.

Again thank you for your comments because I really need them. I hope to purchase something within the next few weeks depending on what I get in the way of your responses.
rbwinterlink

Showing 1 response by trelja

My first real jump into high-end audio CD players was the Cambridge D500SE. That was almost 10 years ago. It worked fine for almost 3 months, then had no output on the right channel. That is, until I was going to bring it back to my dealer, and it began playing again. He told me it wasn't the first player he'd seen this with, so he asked me to bring it in. I did, and the problem reappeared when he hooked it up for a listen. He had a new in the box player waiting for me when I walked in.

The second player worked for about a month, then developed the same problem. Same scenario, he gave me another machine.

I opened the box of this third player when I got home to take it out, and the drawer would not come out, but I could hear it trying. So, I gave it a gentle tug, and it jumped to the side as it popped out. Hit CLOSE, and the drawer was so misaligned that it ended up about 1/8" to the right of where it should have been. Called him up, and let him know I was done with Cambridge CD players for now, and we agreed on me taking a similarly priced rack instead.

I understand the next generation (C540/C640) players were infinitely more reliable than the D300/D500 series. I also bought a Music Hall MMF25 when they first came out, and it provided over 3 years of flawless operation. Then again, I've seen players with another zero in their pricetag fail right out of the box or anytime after that.

I don't want to say that it's just Cambridge or whatever brand of CD player being made over there, it's the shoddy workmanship in general of these components. In October, I bought one of those 3 packs of General Electric cordless phones/answering machine at Circuit City. My 2 year old daughter dropped one on a hardwood floor, and it shattered. OK, 1 down. And, this past week, a second unit of the three just up and died. Now, I'm left with one of the three phones I originally purchased, and am left wondering why I paid another $50 or so for the 3 pack.

Growing up in the time when you pretty much expected the phone you had to last a lifetime, I must say the increasingly short lifespan of the phones being produced in the past decade (dovetails with the rise of manufacturers shifting their production to China) is enough to make me question what direction we've gone down with this low price at whatever cost paradigm. Yes, it was more difficult to buy my first real good cordless phone, a made in Japan Toshiba, way back for $199, but I expect to get 2 - 3 solid years out of this type of product. I've almost reached the point where I'm willing to pay triple the price to have the thing last me. The ironic thing is that there are now no such products available. Well, at least now I know why the warranty on the current phone pack was only 90 days...