Replicant 100 stylus


My ''general statement'' that styli are produced by either Ogura or Namiki

may need correction.

Some friends of my ''discovered'' that Replicant (Ortofon), Decca and

''Expert stylus'' are the same. As is/was the case with Gyger and

Van den Hul. Van den Hul designed Gyeger I, II and S (?) but

Gyger produced them. This was obviously kept secret for commercial

reasons.

My assertion is that Expert stylus (Paratrace) provide them to the

other mentioned.

Is anybody capable to check this information?

 

nandric

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It is easy to ask questions but sometimes very difficult to answer them.

My assertion is that only JCarr can answer my question. But he may

lack the time to read all threads in our forum. The conditions are

1. owning all 3 cartridge kinds 2. owning the right microscope and 3.

the needed knowledge, That is to say how important Replicant is

in comparison with ''nude Shibata'' , ''micro ridge'' and Van den Hul

(alias Gyger ).

pindac, Interesting information but as is always the case depending

from the truth of assertion  or premise. My is different from yours.

I have several cartridges retipped by Expert stylus with their ''Paratrace''

stylus . So if Paratrace = Replicant than both can't be as ''exclusive''

as in your premise. The stylus only retip is about 200 GBP. 

The whole Roksan PR about Shiraz is based on the premise that

Gyger II is the ''best ever'' stylus. This stylus is designed by Van

den Hul because Gyger I was very difficult to produce. This means

that Gyger II was ''more simple'' than Gyger I. Alas Van den Hul

deed not mark his styli as mk. 1, 2 and S. suggesting the ''same

stylus'' for all his styli. Shakespeare ''what is in a name?'' can

be answered in different  ways. Also as confusion. Who would 

believe that Serbo-Croatian name for Vienna is Bec? 

My plea for retips made my psychology to mention lower price than

the real one. It is 216,67 GBP. instead of ''about 200''. I deed ''it'' for all

my cartridges with elliptical stylus. If later styli are better who can

protest? 

The paradox of thinking to know. As was the case in, uh, my own

case when I had no idea that ''Paratrace= Replicant '' but deed

''retip'' while '' knowing'' or believing that retip is a priori

stupid to do.

''From a logical point of view'' ( Quine) names lack ''predicative function''

that is why we need predicates which ''say something'' about , say,

bearer of the name. So names are supposed to only refer to ,say,

objects (old expression) or entities (new expression for objects). But

as we have just ''seen'' the different names for the (same?) stylus

are more confusing than clear. So we have not easy task to first

''discover'' if  Replicant = Paratrace= Decca or like by Wien also

Vienna , Wenen (Dutch) and Bec (Serbo-Croatian) are different 

names with the same reference. The logical statement ''whatever is

true about Wien must be true about Vienna , Wenen, etc. because

they all refer to the same city in Austria. But what about those who

have no idea that, say, Wenen and Bec refer to Wien in Austria?

 

dover, imagine me  being your visitor  in N, Zeeland and you offering

to me only an half glass of your excellent wine. That is how I feel with

your info about origin of Replicant . 

mijostyn, my problem is not the microscope but my capability  to

see the difference between them. To me all ''not oval kinds'' look

the same.

In the context of ''intellectual ownership'' which can be seen as the

usual ownership of movables and immovables in the sense of

relating persons and objects in ''one to one'' relation there are public

registers in which ''objects and persons'' are kept together such

that people can see ''who owns what''. But there is also ''know how''

which is only available to the inventors. This knowledge is different

from scientific knowledge because it is secret. There are commercial

interest involved . In this sense Gyger and Van den Hul are kept

apart as well Replicant and Paratrace suggesting with different

names different animals. There are btw also different names as

intellectual ownership called ''trademark''. Think of our disputes

about Glanz and Astatic with believe that those are different

animals and even our MM authority was convinced that Astatic is

not Glanz. while the ''poor thing'' is produced by an Japanese

company called ''Mitachi'' the inventor of ''MF'' (moving flux) 

technology. The consequence being embarrassment of some

of our ''honourable members''. 

mijostyn , I am fighting against prejudice and assumed meaning of words.

At my age (84) I can hardly see with my glasses. But , curiously, I see

more beautiful women than ever before. I need to consult my eye doctor

and ask how this is possible (grin).  

When I posted my second cart , Magic diamond, to Mr. Hodgson ,

the owner and engineer by ''Expert stylus'' I told him the story

about Reto Andreoli who at age of 15 moved to Australia with

intention to learn the trade by brothers Garrott. To my big surprise

I got an long email from him and learned that the mentioned

brothers were his good friends in UK. They obviously started their

''repair service'' in UK but moved to Australia hoping for more

success. In this sense they were his competitors so he refused 

to provide them with his PARATRACE styli.So even back than

Mr. Hodgson was able to get those, say, Replicant. What is more

he is also good friend with the person who produce London Decca

which  also use Peratrace stylus in his cantilverless design.

In Holland small and family companies earn 70% of national income.

My guess is that whomever produces those  Replicant does this

exclusive for Ortofon, Decca and Mr. Hodgson. My earlier guess

was that ''Expert stylus'' produces them but this is negated by dover

who mentioned production in Ireland.This may explain the fact that

Replicant is not available in general? 

Dear dover, I told the story as I heard from Mr. Hodgson. I had no idea 

about his relationship with Garrott brothers . I was interested and

still am about Andreoli. Now regarding your ''bs''.

I have next to my Russian- also an American brother with whom I

have daily correspondence (Don Griffith). His story you can probably

deny or confirm. The story is that people posted their in Japan bought

Koetsus direct to Garrott brothers for their ''retips''. Aka ''not rebuild''

or ''refreshment''. Considering the fact that I am fighting for ,uh, retip

recognition with the argument that there is no such thing as ''original

styli'' but that (nearly) all are produced by either Ogura or Namiki 

which are the real ''origine'' of styli used by manufacturer as well

retippers.

Now regarding your ''magnanimous'' invitation for an half glass of

wine I don't believe that this is attractive proposition for me because

I can buy for 15 euro either excellent Italian as well French wine.

Anyway you made ''retips'' as well ''rebuild'' + ''refreshment'' of

carts superfluous by your discovery and praise of Denon 103 D

for $ 280. The only thing ''uncertain'' in the context of this thread

is which stylus is ''build in''? 

Well in order to make ''cost-benefit'' analysis we need to know the

prices. I mentioned ''stylus only'' retip as well ''cantilever + stylus''

price. Alas we deed not discover what ''rebuild'' price is . For dover

this is  ''not our business'' to know. That is to say what his (3x) 

''rebuild'' of his precious Dynavector cost. BTW if his Dynavector

needs each time ''rebuild'' instead changing wear off stylus only

I would not recommend such cartridge (grin). 

In addition to ''my cost '' there is also known the price for the priceless

Denon 103 D; $ 280 . Why should  anyone with my ''budget'' of less

than $3000 spend more on an cartridge? 

It obviously come down to linguistic; if the mentioned ''super the super''

individuals are called ''retipers'', ''cartridge repair service'' or ''rebuilders''.

Because this thread is about styli which are specific parts among the

other parts by each cart which other parts are not mentioned in this

discussion It is obvious why dover persist on the expression ''rebuild''.

I would think that stylus exchange or cantilever/stylus combo exchange

is called ''retips'' . That is the part  which is glued  in front side of the

so called ''joint pipe'' ( aka ''aluminum tube'')  and at which back side

the coils and tension wire are fastened . Those are the so called ''moving

parts''  which are connected to the generator by tension wire. There is

also damper (aka ''rubber ring'') against which the coil is positioned.

All those parts have their own name and can be identify as such.

However those are not named or referred to by vague expression

''rebuild''. It is the choice of expressions which make statements

more or less clear. Styli and cantilevers are, I would think , pretty

clear. But it seem more easy to point out at less relevant issues

like what brothers Garrott deed or not and qualify  info about THEM

as  ''BS''. In latin: testimonium paupertatis 

pinda, I assume you mean with '' FG''  Fritz Gyger?  But Gyger is out of

business because they never made any profit. Van den Hul sold more

than Gyger. This means that Gyger styli are not anymore available. 

What than is the sense of it inclusion by comparison with other?

pinda, your,say, domain of search is much wider than our. We want to

know if Replicant=Paratrace =Decca as well who produces this styli. 

Also if this stylus is available to other producers and or retippers?

Our assumption or rather my assumption is that those are the same.

If they are the same what sense has comparison between them?

You should start your own thread .

Raul, our forum is not the place to express your frustration and

hate against other members. You should write in other media which

are more suitable for your character. 

raul, speaking about ''level of knowledge''. Your level of English is the

same as 20 years ago. Still not capable to produce one single 

decent English sentence and you dare  to speak about ''level of

knowledge''. 

yeti, We can't know what each retipper has in his stock. My friend Axel

Shurholz had ''some Gyger II '' in stock but was not willing to do

''stylus only'' retip. This was according to him much more difficult

than gluing the whole cantilever stylus combo in the joint pipe.

The joint pipe is an aluminum pipe in which front side cantilever

is glued and its back side coils and tension wire are fastened.

So actually all cantilevers are  HYBRIDE. That is to say whatever

material of the ''front cantilever'' the ''cantilever behind'' is aluminum

pipe. As JCarr explained in my other thread : Sony XL 88 D (D= diamond)

had an extra long aluminum part  so the diamond could be as short

as possible .That is why diamonds are only for the ladies ; to expansive

for man (grin). 

Well because  neither Gyger ( I, II and S)  is available in general there

is no sense to speak about their availability. They are not available

to all producers nor to retipers.

 

''Dissection'' of an fake intellectual. Every academic knows which

subjects are compulsory at high school. High school is obligatory

for university education. Well one need to read only 3 sentences 

produced by Raul to be able to deduce that he can impossible 

have high school education because English is obligatory subject

in each. This imply English grammar.

pinda, you made my day. I had no idea about your level for humour.

But in order to value high kind one need to have some other level;

higher kind.

;

According to my (American) brother Don, Dover may be right. Alas as

is the case with his wine he delivered only half work. The explanation

by Don is low wage countries in the context of labor- intensity. Diamond,

you know is very hard material and difficult to ,uh, work with. Hence

removal to Ireland. Whoever was in Switzerland and was confronted

with their prices will also understand why Gyger is out of production. 

By intellectual ownership one need to distinguish between patent, licence

and trademark. Gyger I,II and S are designed by Van den Hul who

owns the patent while Gyger got either licence or trademark. ''FGS''

and other ''names'' used by Gyger suggest their own design .Considering

the fact Van den Hul sold more than Gyger it is understandable that

they wanted to end arrangement whit Van den Hul. But this imply

that their own styli are different than those designed by Van den Hul.

So we are again confronted with names which lack clear reference.

To put this otherwise we have the problem of ''identity'' which I try

to explain in my introduction. To put this in ''identity'' terminology

neither of all of them is identical with the other. So the name Gyger

is only clear for the company in Swiss  because each company

(legal body) must be registrated with its address and assets in

each country were present. I also made questions  by ''original parts''

while this info by our ''high level humorist'' illustrated that people

think that name ''Fritz Gyger'' refer to some ''original stylus'' whit

the same identity . But the case or ''the fact'' is that there are 5

different styli.

Dear ''high level humorist'' , ''digression '' about whatever ''subject''

does not mean more clarity. So preconception about ''reference of

an name'' does not warrant identitity of an entity. Certainly not when

producer try to hide the origine of an product. Think of my example

with  ''Glanz'' and '' Astatic''. The inventor ( patent) is Mitachi company

in Japan who invented MF technology while ''Glanz'' and ''Astatic''

suggested their own product . So Raul was convinced that Astatic

made its own cartridges. BTW Van den Hul and Gyger have had

lawsuit about patents. What we are trying to do is provide right

information. We lack the right information about Replicant and

this was my reason to start this thread.

 

pinda, I suggested to you to start your own thread. I think that you

needless extend our ''subject'' to other subjects which are not

relevant for our questions about Replicant. We are not investigating

Fritz Gyger and the question if ''someone'' produce ''those'' nor are

we investigating ''patent laws'' which imply national legislation

according to ''territorial principle'' ; each country on its own except

Europen  '' bundle patent law'' which apply for each member of the

agreement. You can also not extend American duration of 20 years

to all countries. One need to know Chinese rules about ''intellectual

ownership'' instead to assume that American legislation apply

to China and then accuse China  of ''breaking the patent law'' in general .

 

As I explained in my introduction 3 persons looking true microscope

were not able to see any difference between Paratrace, Replicant

and stylus in London Decca. This imply that ''someone'' must produced

this stylus. ''Someone'' is existential quantifier because ''lt'' assume

existence of some object or entity. There this name Pegasus which

assumes existence of an flying  horse. We somehow know that this

animal does not exists. Logical  reading of this quantifier is that the

statement which entail this expression is true if at least  one object

satisfy condition ''some''. More than one is also welcome.

You stated : ''I am open to be corrected''. 

Really? 

Well which question are you trying to answer? 

''We'' also have similar problem with dover. He is not only ''high level

humorist '' but also enjoy teasing his co-member nandric. .To my

self invitation to N.Zealand he offered to me one half glass of wine.

And to my opinion about ''retips'' I got his advice to ask my

retiper to turn the same stylus ''left for right'' because only right

side is worn out because I don't use anti-skate. 

So it may be possible that his place were Replicant are produced is

not really Ireland? 

''The other person'' ( Don Griffith)  left the forum because of Raul.

Also ''very low level of knowledge'' , He is aircraft engineer. 

I try to explain function of names in my other thread . Raul

missed my point by Glanz and Astatic because of lack of education.

Those names are used not to refer but to hide reference by

suggesting different ''animals'' while being ''the same'' product

of Mitachi company in Japan. Aka ''misleading  names'' . The

Glanz thread is illustration of name confusion and our own

discovery that both names refer to the same products.

The same is/was the case by Gyger versus Van de Hul styli as well

by ''Van den Hul'' cartridges them self. Those are not made by

Van den Hul.. The explanation of terms, use of words , kind of sentences

or statement or propositions is not possible without knowledge of logic,

linguistic and philosophy of language. Those are ''subjects'' about

which Raul has never heard because of his very low level of knowledge.

Intellectual property, justice and cheating. The older among us

know who Kondo-san was. His company ''Audio note'' produced

very expensive component. In UK however was a company  

with trademark ''Audio note'' which copied Kondo's inventions.

This is obvious stealing. Kondo-san was not able to do anything

against UK law.  Consider (general) patent duration of +/- 20 years.

Compare this with the discrepancy with copyright . Duration is 70

years after passing  of  the ''author'' . ''Original'' (sic) this right was

meant for, say, writers, Check at present what singers  heir get for

their ''copyright''. American are complaining about

 hinese accusing them of stealing but are not able to get the

idea to increase duration of patent law. We have seen  Raul's

''argument'' that Glanz and Astatic got ''licence'' for production

of ''MF'' technology invented by Mitachi in Japan. He obviously

have no idea what ''licence'' means. ''Glanz'' is an German

expression meaning ''shining'' . So it suggest German company.

But as dgob mentioned in his Glanz thread  this company is

Japanese, So according to Raul an Japanese company  sold

''licence'' to other Japanese company. But the sense of an licence

is to sell permission to some other country because establishing

own company abroad is very expensive, So as one can conclude

intellectual property is pretty complex for even the professionals

not to mention an nitwit from Mexico. 

 

 

 

 

 

Our question was if Replicant can be added to Ogura and Namiki as

supplier of styli in the sense of availability to manufacturer as well

''retipers'' ( aka repair services) .The context was  the assumed 

difference between  ''original parts'' by manufacturer and ''retipers''

as the reason to do, say, either ''refurbishing or rebuilding''  by the

manufacturer or retipers. We got answers about the ''sound'' of

Replicant but not about its availabillity. BTW Benz LP ( the 16 g )

moved from Gyger to micro ridge. The reason being that Gyger

is no more. We can conclude that the mentioned Japanese Jewel

companies  have monopoly position. As Axel told me: ''they

increased the price with 100% without any consultation''.

Then we also have JCarr's   ''levels of styli'' which can be

get by special order in order to charge prices of + 10 K.

I don't believe   that this is  ''our problem''. Also ''the kinds

of diamonds'' are not relevant for our investigation despite

they ''natural'', ''industrial'' or ''artificial nature''.

edgewear, We started with the fact that Ortofon uses Replicant stylus.

In addition there were suggestions that ''Expert stylus'' ( Paratrace) and

Decca London stylus look ''the same'' ( aka ''identical'') as Replicant.

But we were not able to discover who produces those as well if those

styli are available to other manufacturer as well ''retipers''. So we

can't conclude that there are more styli providers than the two

mentioned. So my first ''general statement'' that there are only

two producers in relevant sense of availability is not refuted. 

To refute this general statement was intention of the thread about

Replicant. 

 

edgewear, No mercy whatever  for the proponents of 'rebuild''  and

''refreshment'' ideology whatever! Who of them would believe that

one can get whatever stylus one wants by an RETIPER and not

by the manufacturer? How could you be so cruel  to our co-members? 

Not even an half glass of wine for you in (Dutch) N. Zealand. 

dear pinda, as you already know there not only '' levels of styli'', but also

''levels  of knowledge'' involved in our ''discussions'' . Alas I am forced

to add ''the level of humour'' in order to react to your contribution. I must

also confess that my ''associative thinking'' was not capable to connect 

Replicant with copy. I had to many variables  to think about.

Anyway personal psychology is not an accuse, Thanks for your

contribution and I am glad that you deed not start your own thread.

dear pinda, I checked your reference . I theached civil law and intellectual

ownership. According to me one can't speak about Gyger styli in general.

As i mentioned elsewhere Van den Hula designed Gyger I, II and S.

So those are different animals in the sens of patent law. ''Symilar '' will

not do, The reason is that ''all are similar to Shibata''. Anyway Gyger I,

Ii and S have different  dimension  and imply different patents for

Van den Hul. So Replicant may look as but can't be ''identical'' with

any Gyger kind.

 

identity conundrum

There are two criteria:

1. leibniz  indiscernibilis based on properties 

2. Frege's based on meaning or sense

What we can discriminate or not is not easy to say ,say one egg and the

other.

The evening star and the morning star 

Those say, names , are obviously different but both refer to the same,

uh, planet Venus. However before discovery that both stars are

the same people had the right to give them different names. Aka

geocentric world view,

Well we think that Geiger refers to something else than VDH. 

But Van den Hul invented ,uh, Geiger stylus , but with his own

patent . He even claimed that Namiki has  stolen his invention.

Aka not paid royalties. 

So it seems that our Replicant , Paratrace and Decca are

copies of Van den Hul. But which one ? Geiger I , II or S?

edgewear I am really sorry but I could not resist .

Wishful thinking is , say, general feeling. We all have some. My guess

is that Van den Hul confused patent duration with ''authors kind''. 

The later are about 70 years after authors dead. The former only

+/- 20 years. The lowest duration have trademarks ; 10 years, But

the cheapest. For +/- $700 one can get one. But who would not

long for royalties from such big company as Namiki? Only, say, 3%

and one can  compete with the new rich from Russia and Chine.

So why not try? 

The ''sense of difference'' of rights duration make no sense but this 

this is different issue. 

 

needlestein, As you can see in the introduction of this thread the

intention was to possible correct general statement that only

Ogura and  Namiki produce styli. Replicant 100 as well Decca and

''Expert stylus'' were the reason to assume that some ''third party''

also produce styli but we were not able to find WHO. If this ''third

party'' produce styli which are available to everyone that would be

impossible to hide. So I think that you are not correct with you

accusation or qualification ''Yikes'' against  participants in this

thread. You also avoid to answer the relevant question if ''your''

Geiger styli are available to everyone or only to  Ortofon, Expert

stylus and Decca. If those are the only and exclusive receivers

of Geiger styli than this does not contradict the general statement

about Ogura and Namiki. For any customer not availability of

whatever item is not meaningful . One can't order what is not

available.. 

 

I wrote about different names with the same reference. As example

I mentioned Vienna, Wenen, Bec and Wien. According to logic

whatever is true about Vienna is also true about Wenen (Dutch) and

Bec (Serbo -Croatian )etc,  ''salva veritate''.

But with trademarks the situation is different. It looks more as deceiving.

We have had this problem with Glanz cartridges which were different

animals than Astatic according to our MM authority. Till the members

them self discovered ''the same animal'' produced by Japanese company

Mitachi.

Now we learn that not only Geiger but also ''Expert stylus'' produce

''the same animal'' but by different names: Geiger x,y. and Paratrace I. II.

But why should they hide behind different names? 

 

 

 

addendum.

needlestein, we already have an BIG EGO in our forum with

high level of knowledge and (very) low level of education. Can

you explain to us how Geiger with ''low level of production'' can

deliver styli not only to you but to all of us? This may be called

contradiction in logical sense. The logic is other way round. From

general statements to singular kinds. You obviously overlooked

this ''small difficulty''. Yikes.

needlestein, ''I order Geiger'' so everyone can order Geiger will not

do. This is called ''induction from one case to all cases''. You are

not, i hope, assuming that neither of participants in this thread is

not able to search on internet ?  There is nowhere F.Geiger to find,

Yikes. Besides VDH patent from +/-1970 is expired because the

patent duration is 20 years. He deed not produce styli so which product

of his needed protection ? Geiger as producer needed protection

so they made some agreement . But as stated there is no

patent anymore so everyone is entitled to produce VDH styli.

The  trademark is different. Usually granted for 7-10 years but

it can be prolonged . It also an cheap procedure. 

Can you provide  search info regarding both F. Geiger and

''Expert stylus'' by which their styli production is mentioned?

Yikes! 

 

neeedlestein,   the logical explanation is that ''names have no predicative

function'' . That is to say that names tell nothing about they bearers. 

That is why we need predicates which describe properties and

qualities which apply to the bearers of the names. Now you mentioned

''hiding names'' which would make no sense if they were easy to discover

their real names. Consider tax authorities confronted with hiding names.

of tax payer. Even with all kinds of taxes states would go bankrupt with

added borrowing on capital market . Many have no idea how those loans

will be paid back. But with hiding names of tax payer the  bankruptcy

would take place direct . Gyger or Geiger is similar to Vienna, Wenen,

Bec and Wien . Aka ''many names'' which refer to the same ,uh, object. 

Different languages use different  names for the same object but

the objects them self  are assumed to be bearer of the names. 

I its very interesting that the ''small production by GYGER '' seems

to can produce huge amount of styli available to all of us in addition

to all cartridge manufacturer as well retipers. Not to mention its

judicial limitation to  to Switzerland. For you the task to explain your

difference between small and huge.

needlestein, If you (re) read my introduction to this thread you will

see that I used the name GYGER. The case with names I explained

elsewhere. The logical rule is so old that it is expressed in Latin . It

is called ''substitutio salva veritate''. This apply for names with the same

reference . Aka whatever is true about Wien is also true about

Vienna. In German language the sing "Y" is never used instead

of ''eI''. The reason is probably ''trade mark'' for international use.

I see you got help from the person who think to be authority which

can grant ''levels of knowledge'' to others while I can bet that he has

never heard about just mentioned logical rule. So your ''argument''

about the ''right name'' should imply that Americans should never

use the name ''Vienna'' but the ''REAL NAME'' of the capital city

of Austria which is WIEN. 

I own Benz LP with micro ridge stylus which is about 7 years old. Benz

which used Gyger styli for years obviously changed to Namiki. The same

is the case with my EMT which used Gyger for years but not anymore.

Van den Hul own explanation is that his ''stock'' is full of old Gyger

styli. As I explained already trademark is different than patent . The

patent duration is 20 years but the owner must produce and trade

the product to get patent protection. This is obvious in case of VDH

because he deed not produce any styli. So, obviously, he stipulated

by Gyger his right to sell Gyger styli which he designed under his

own trade name.  BTW he sold many more then Gyger. As I also

mentioned trade mark can be easy prolonged. Cost about 600 euro.

If you have read contribution of our ''Professor'' JCarr who is even 

at higher level of knowledge than Raul HIMSELF deed no mention

Gyger at all. He agreed with my general statement about Namiki

and Ogura but explained his (aka Lyra's) exception in the sense that

they provide Ogura with boron and order special styli for their

cartridges. This thread was started with intention to find ''third

party'' because Replicant and other styli can't be from Mars but

produced by someone. The candidate are Gyger and Expert stylus.

I have different retips by Expert stylus since my friend Axel Schurholz

passed away. BTW Experts stylus is one of few who does ''stylus

only'' retip for an modest price. I was in the same position as this

French trader who hired an teacher French in order to be ''allowed''

to the French high society. He said to his teacher: ''My Gosh I speak

prose my own life without knowing that. I am very thankful to you

Professor.'' . I had also no idea that ''Paratrace'' is ''Gyger x'' despite

the fact that I own 3 of those.  

 

 

 

needlestein the expression is ''burying the hatchet'' but , curiously,

we actually fight for the same cause: the third styli source. I am still

not sure about Gyger but am very glad for Expert stylus. I also like

Mr.Hodgson very much. There can my beloved ''retip'' be done.

You should provide the address for ,uh, ''Geiger'' (grin).

 

pindac, Thanks for your ''conclusion'' for MY THREAD (grin).

It does not count as ''intellectual property'' but we all have some

idea about what belongs to whom. Now my conclusion is that 

needlestein deed not ''exactly'' grasped my invitation to provide

''address'' of Gyger (alias Geiger). What I meant with ''address''

is the address were our members can get  Gyger retip. So

reference to Switzerland will not do, We can also explain the

''Decca mystery''. John wright and Mr. Hodgson from ''Expert 

stylus'' are close friends. So those ''Decca styli'' are produced

by Expert stylus but not necessarily glued in Decca's by Hodgson.

However this would make  John's work more easy.

 

pindac, If I understand you well you mean ''REBUILD '' Ortofon but because

of  dover you avoid this expression? 

 

pindac, Sorry my intention was to tease dover. I need to rephrase 

the problem.  If we think in the context of ''wear and tear'' reg. parts

in an (MC) cartridge we can ''deduce'' that styli are the first candidate.

So after, say, 1000 hour of use, one is forced to think about stylus

replacement in order to protect his records. There is not much ''wear

and tear'' by other parts (original or not) except by very old carts

by dampers. Because Replicant is used only (?) by Ortofon one can

ask Ortofon about Replicant  replacement. But Ortofon does not

offer ''stylus only'' replacement but the ''whole rebuild'' which is,alas,

not clear at all. Rebuild what? We have hiding names, curious vocabulary,

styli in disguise (Decca & Paratrace) and different names for Gyger.

If : ''Gyger=Replicant=  Paratrace'' than ordering stylus only replacement

(aka ''my retip'') is clear and obvious choice. This was btw our assertion

by introduction of this thread. Members who compared those 3 with

microscope and were convince that they are equal but not ''identical''

(grin). So conclusion ''in short'': ordering replacement by Expert stylus.

 

 

As is the case by all ''collective valuations'' the members of our

forum which participate in this and the other connected thread

should decide which contribution is more clear.