I appreciate the input so far. Actually though, I figured I'd be hearing about the Creek Destiny and the Exposure 2010S(2) as these usually get high marks for their transparency. Mind you, the only amp I've heard that bettered the Patek for transparency (and that is only in the vital midrange) was a JAS Array 2.1 which had GE 805's and Sophia Meshplate 300B's. I sold it due to hum problems though it wasn't the amp as much as wiring issues which have been corrected. Anyone heard these AND the Patek or comparable amps? Still VERY much leaning towards a passive rather than active linestage in the integrated. Again, thanks for the input.