When i had construction done to my 2 bed rooms upstairs in my home back in 2009 , I wanted one big huge room with raised ceiling and 3 sky lights with 2 dormers. New hardwood tongue and groove floor. Fuji split zone AC on wall. Hard wood tongue and groove floor. 2 ceiling fans. 3 ceiling high hat flood lights with dimmer switches. Hard wired smoke detector. And about 12 15 A receptacles. Upgraded from 115v to 220v for home with new breaker box and breakers. Thats why i thought of running a dedicated 15A or 20A line for my CPD. This work was all done before i had any thoughts of putting together my stereo system. Since then i have only added the dedicated 20A circuit double gang box for my Krell FPB 600 and ARC Ref 6 . |
@elizabeth Just checked the the line with the CDP receptacle. It is not on the same line as the ceiling fans. In fact there are only about 3 other receptacles on that line that is connected to my CDP. So i think i will be ok with just installing the furutech without adding the dedicated line . What do you think? Unless i want a 20A dedicated line for the future. But i dont need it right now. |
@lowrider57 Not sure i know what you mean by needs to be on the same leg of the service panel as my 20A dedicated line, same phase. And what do you mean by appliances? blender ? microwave? toaster? Im not trying to be funny but i have a dedicated listening room. Its not in my kitchen. |
@elizabeth ...... Elizabeth Thank you for the last 2 replies to me. I still really dont understand what you are talking about. And i appreciate your time writing all that. I will have my electrician in stall a 20A dedicated line for my Furutech GTX-d r for my CDP so i know for sure there is nothing else on that line. also that way if and when do buy a Shunyata power conditioner for my CDP i can use the 20A line too. |
tecnik........ I can not do the Furutech FI-09 Rhodium IECs as i am using Shunyata King Cobra and Sigmas. |
@lowrider57 ........ I understand what you are talking about now.... You explained it very well.. And yes the CDP is on the same leg as my dedicated 20A line for my amp and preamp. I understand them now going on the same leg but like you mentioned both legs should be evened out. Lets say leg A has the Refrigerator, Jacuzzi, AC , TV.Microwave, and leg B has a tanning bed , big screen tv, and 2 ACs. Now both legs have appliances , so explain to me what that matters then. I understand u want to keep all the audio components on the same leg but if there are appliances on both legs why would it matter. Curious.... |
@elizabeth @lowrider57 ............Thank you both very much for all you replies... It really helped me see and understand so much more about electric wiring and breaker boxes.. Now when i looked at my breaker box my quad 20A breaker for my amp and preamp is on the bottom of leg 2. When my electrican comes and installed my other 20A dedicated line for my CDP should i tell him to relocate the 2 20A dedicated audio lines to the top leg 2 of the breaker box ? |
correction ...Not quad 20A breaker... quad 20A receptacle. |
@elizabeth @lowrider57 ...Thank you guys ....... I will have my electrician see what he can do about moving the audio breakers or appliance breakers while he adds the new dedicated 20A line. So you are also suggesting the audio breakers be on the top of the leg and high current appliances below ..... |
@dynaquest4.........All she was doing was trying to help me.And she did say that she say...Sorry i cant advise you on that...Which i appreciate that .. |
And to me it would be like destroying them to put on furutechs , no matter how good they are. |
@tecknik.........First of all i the power cables (Shunyata Sigmas HC and Digital and King Cobra CX are 8 awg wire and not sure if they would fit with the Furutech. Second i paid about 6 k for the 3 power cables, why would i want to alter those? And if i ever wanted to sell them im SURE people would want original Shunyatas. |
@technik.....Thanks ill look forward to reading it.... |
@tecknik.......Sorry if i misunderstood you... |
Just started to burn in my Furutech GTX d - r by putting it on my refrigerator freezer . I will let it burn in about 350 hrs or 15 days. I was not going to burn them in at all and let the components burn them in but that would really take forever or never burn in at all especially on my CDP.. In about a week or so i will put the refrigerator plug to the bottom outlet of the Furutech and will leave it there for the other week. Then i will repeat for the other 2 Furutechs. |
@lak I definitely will post the update.... |
@lak ........ I also read that you are using 5 Furutech GTX d-r,,,,,,,How many hours did you burn them in for? |
Too bad i only have one refig. It will take me 3 months to burn in all 3 ... lol.. But there is not really no rush. Ive been using generic receptacles for a few years already. So i should hear a nice difference when i install the Furutechs. Will also be using the Oyaide Z2 dual duplex carbon fiber cover / aluminum base. And the Oyaide Z Single duplex carbon fiber cover / aluminum base. |
Ive found some threads about burn in time for the Furutech GTXd-r anywhere from 500 hrs to 1000 hrs. of burn in time. I will let them each burn in for 750 hrs. / 20 days. 10 days each on the top and bottom plugs plugged into my refig. I figure since its already hooked up to my refig i will just let it burn in more. It cant hurt |
@lak ..........Ok sounds good.... I think we are in the same neighborhood. Ill prob let them just burn in for the 30 days / 750 hrs. My mistake in the last post..20 days equals 480 hrs. |
@dynaquest4........... I was not going to say anything because i thought it was "Just my imagination , running away with me " as Mick Jagger says. But i swear the milk tastes alot colder since letting my Furutech GTX d r receptacle. No Joke !!! |
typo... But i swear the milk tastes alot colder since letting my Furutech GTX d r receptacle burn in... No Joke !!! |
@dynaquest4 I dont understand ....Am i reading your posts wrong ? Can you explain your posts better ? I am reading your posts as you say first > This is exactly what i mean about people on this forum , who really dont know what they are talking about, giving out very questionable advice about gimmicks and tweaks that can cost serious money and accomplish virtually nothing....Then you talk about your refrigerator continually burning in and the the food and drink stays fresher longer etc etc....Hard to believe but its true .YOU SAY...Then i replied that when i am burning in my Furutech on my refig line i said that my milk tasted alot colder ...I really do believe what i taste . As ridiculous as this sounds, i believe it. Then you write still chucking ....burn in ....what a concept......>>>> How is it otherwise intelligent people {well some of them} find themselves so gullible as to believe those wives tales. ....... To me there is more proof by reading what other people post about burning in receptacles than it does not need to or make any difference . At first i really did believe what you wrote about your refig keeping things fresher. Thats why i added what i believed about my milk seeming alot colder. And i still believe it. As unbelievable as it may sound. Now i see that you are " non believer " Can i ask you where your poof is about burning in receptacles means- makes no difference? I would really like to know that.. Please explain your proof.. I am only trying to find out what is true and not.. As this will also save me months and months from burning in my furutech receptacles on my refig...Thanks |
I am only trying to find out the truth and facts. I hope you understand and please dont take it personal.. |
@dynquest4....... Thank you for your unbiased opinion in what you believe and dont.. I appreciate you being straight and forward.. @elizabeth ....... I guess it all comes down to is what YOU believe will work and dont work. Naysayers will always believe in what they believe in as we believe in what we want to believe in. Is there really proof one way or the other? Maybe no.. |
@jhills........... Thank you for your post.... I just want to tell you that i know that the 20A is not necessary for a CDP, but since it is on a non dedicated circuit (15A} I thought it would be better to put in on a dedicated circuit, and since i do have to run a dedicated circuit i thought it might be better to run a 20A dedicated line on my other wall by my CDP just in case of adding something else..Just in case....... Now let me ask you a question please, Do u think a CDP should be on a dedicated line? |
@elizabeth ..... I think the Furutech GTX -D-R Rhodium are better than the gold.... I bought 3...Still burning in my first one hooked up to my refrig. |
@elizabeth .......... That sounds good. That warm one would probably would be the easiest to hear as a difference. After my 3 burn in and install them i will let you know what i hear. |
@elizabeth ........ Sounds like you have a good plan going on.. I am still burning in my first of my 3 Furutech GTX D-Rhodium duplex on my Ref line. Top and bottom each 15 days burn in time. I have about another week left for the first on to be burned in and then i will move to the 2nd. And then the 3rd . 3 months total for the 3. Then i will install one with the Oyaide carbon fiber cover and the other 2 with the WPZ -Z 2 dual duplex Oyaide carbon fiber . I will be using one with my Rega Isis cdp and my other 2 with my ARC Ref 6 And Krell FPB 600. That will be on the duplex. |
Last night i just installed my first Furutech GTX -D-R with the Oyaide WPC Z - Aluminum base with the carbon fiber cover which has been burned in for 30 days on my refig. I installed it for my cdp. The minute i put on my first cd the improvement in sound was very rewarding to my ears. The sound from my cdp was more dynamic, crisper , clearer , cleaner with very nice natural highs that are very revealing .It sounds like i installed a power conditioner. A VERY noticeable difference than a cheap Leviton receptacle. BIG IMPROVEMENT ....I am now burning in my second Furutech GTX-D-R for 30 days and after that one more Furutech GTX-D-R which then i will use both for my amp and preamp on my dedicated 20a line double gang box and put on the Oyaide WPC Z 2 double aluminum base with double carbon fiber cover... Cant wait to hear what those 2 will do for my amp and preamp... |
Oyaide WPC-Z and Z2...... High performance mounting frame and panel....The appearance of the WPC-Z attracted audio enthusiasts and created a strong impression of mounting frame for wall outlets. In 2007, the long awaited double type base, WPC-Z2, has come on the scene. The most important function for high performance mounting frame is attenuating vibration dampening property. The hybrid materials , each of them has different resonance frequency, perform passive vibration suppression to maximize performance of the Furutech GTX -D-R .Furthermore, carbon fiber reinforced plastic, the material of face plate, has functions of static protection and electromagnetic shielding WPC-Z series are the ultimate optional accessory for unlocking unlimited potential of the Furutech GTX D-R. |
@dynaquest4...... Yes i am having alot of fun... I am trying to get the cleanest purest sound that i can and to bring out the very best in all my equipment like we all try to do. I am only telling what i have heard to my ears. And that was more than very subtle... I dont have to keep switching duplexes back and forth to hear the difference. Besides It is a small job to keep wiring and rewiring duplexes and the Alum case and plate and keep going back and forth. Like i said i know my system and have been hearing it before i installed the Furutech GTX D- R and the Oyaides.... I heard the more than minimal improvement the first time i put on a cd. Sounds really unbelievable but its true and i will put my life on that. I also am not looking to or for a debate.as every one hears things different and every one has their own opinion... All i am saying is this is what i heard... |
@dynaquest4......Off the top of my head the cost was about $235 for each of the Furutech GTX-D-R . The Oyaide WPC-Z Aluminum base with carbon fiber cover $235 ? And the Oyaide WPC-Z2 double Aluminum base with carbon fiber cover $350? And even though they are and look and feel very industrial and look great i did not buy them for the looks. To me and my ears between the Furutech GTX- D-R and the Oyaide WPC covers is like adding a $2500 power conditioner. It really does some incredible positive things to the sound. My next tweek is the Herbies tube dampers for my ARC Ref 6 preamp... |
@folkfreak ..........Dont know what you mean about your carbon fiber face plate vibrating... I had no problem with the center hole screw tightening or stripping.... It tightened very well and very secure with no vibration. I also used the Furutech GTX D-R.. Not the SR. Maybe they are somewhat different. |
@fsonicsmith .............. First of all i am only giving you MY opinion on what i did hear. And the result was ALOT more than minimal. I wrote my findings as mentioned above. I too have resolving gear. Arc Ref 6, Krell FPB 600, Rega Isis cdp. Straightwire Crescendos from speaker cable quad wired to my B&W 800 Matrix , Straightwire Crescendos XLR ICS. Shunyata Sigma HC PC , Shunyata Sigma Digital PC. Shunyata King Cobra CX. Second of all i am also using Furutech GTX -D-R with my Oyaide aluminum base and carbon fiber plates. You are giving you opinion on yours as minimal.. Thats what you are using as i am not using what you are number 1. And i dont have to keep switching outlets and plates back and forth to my judgement ....I know what i have heard before i switched. And what i am hearing now. You sound like a skeptic about those who are using SR Blue fuses Some of those people make judgments and have not even tried them. Does that sound familiar DUDE? |
