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Frank, Thank you for cleaqring that up with me. I did speak with Steve and he did verufy what you stated. Sorry if I mislead anyone about this issue. |
Miner42 said, I was also told by my dealer that the TTPSU for the P5 & P3/24 are all the same for each dedicated model whereas each P7 TTPSU is matched to the motor; meaning all P7 TTPSU are not alike.
With all due respect, your dealer is wrong. I know a reviewer who spoke with Roy Gandy personally about this. The only reason the P. Supply is included with the P7 is because it comes with a dual belt pulley which does not allow swapping between 33 1/3 and 45rpm. Call Steve at sound organisation and he'll make it clear if you don't believe me, or go to this thread and read post #90. OOPS, I just realized we can't post links. Call Steve then. |
I was also told by my dealer that the TTPSU for the P5 & P3/24 are all the same for each dedicated model whereas each P7 TTPSU is matched to the motor; meaning all P7 TTPSU are not alike. |
Learsfoll,
it's really not my intention to nitpick or even to argue per se. Perhaps I misread your original post. I thought you were saying the P7 was twice the price of the P5 with the TTPSU. Also, whereas I agree that the P5 is a significant step up from the P3, it is less of a step up from the P3/24, especially given that the TT PSU is available to the P3/24. I still think the P5 is worthwhile as the price difference is not that much.
Frank_sm,
Perhaps I'm mistaken but I thought the P7 PS was tuned to the specific table/motor that it comes with and that the P9's was more sophisticated. |
Piedpiper, You stated, "Again, the price of the P7 (current list - $2695) includes a dedicated external power supply that is more finely tuned than that available to the P3/24 and P5"
Who told you that the P7 has a "more finely tuned" power supply? This simply isn't true, only the P9 has this feature. |
OK, so I am $75 off - it is still over half again the cost of the P5 w/ PSU. And if the P5 does not have the PSU, than the P7 is indeed almost double the cost, as I said originally. My main point, though, was that many, including myself, feel that the P5 is a big step up from the P3. |
Learsfool,
I wasn't arguing the judgement of whether it's worth the extra money or not, just that it's a closer call than you are portraying IMO. It appears from your last post that you still may not understand the pricing. Again, the price of the P7 (current list - $2695) includes a dedicated external power supply that is more finely tuned than that available to the P3/24 and P5 (current list w/TT PSU - $1770). So the differential is actually $925 total, still a lot, just not as much as you were saying. |
I went from a P5 with TTPSU to a P7. On the P5 I was using a Rega Exact cartridge. I trade up to the P7 one year later. The main difference between the two tables is the subplatter, bearings and ceramic platter (cool looking) on the P7. I did hear a sonic difference but not much. Plus, I am using a DV20XH on the P7. Both tables ae great. The P5 with TTPSU was Stereophiles 2005 analogue product of the year. |
Piedpiper, last time I checked, the P7 without a cartridge was still at least $1000 more than the P5 (again without cartridge) plus the TTPSU, and that was before the dollar took such a beating recently. Regardless, it seems a pretty large consensus (based on what I have researched and heard from dealers and other audiophiles) that the price difference is not equal to the performance difference, in other words, it's better but not that much better than the P5. Do you feel otherwise? If so, I would love to hear why! |
Learsfool,
FYI, the P7 is only half again as much as a P5 with the TT PSU, which is the comparison to make, since the P7 comes with it's own, better oiptimized, PSU. |
I don't think the Speed Box will work with a Rega.
The TTPSU is a substantial upgrade. Worth every penny. Regardless of the turntable, I've never heard one that wasn't significantly bettered by an external power supply. |
Does anyone here use the Pro-ject Speedbox with a Rega TT? I am curious if this would work also. Thanks |
No, each TT model has their own PSU. |
Hi!
Does all the Rega tables use the same TTPSU? Are the ones supplied with the P9 the same as the one supplied with the P3-24 and P5, P7? Just wondering?
The one supplied with the P9 comes in a chasis that resembles the Apollo CD player. Regards, atlasiris |
Sure, just giving one dealer (and a very respected & long-time rega dealer's) feedback. His opinion was that the P3-24 with the TTPSU offers all the great things that made the P5 a step up from the older P3. I've not auditioned any of them in comparison, so I really can't give an opinion of my own.
I look forward to my TTPSU, I should have it this week. |
That's interesting. All the dealers or Rega owners I have talked with have said that the P5 is a big step up from the P3, but the P7 is not much better, at least not for double the money of the P5. They recommend going all the way up to the P9 after the P5. For what it's worth, Art Dudley of Stereophile has written that he considers the P9 to be one of the very best tables out there. I have never auditioned the P7 or P9 myself, but I do consider the P5 a definite step up from the P3, and that TTPSU makes a big difference as well. |
I hope so, I just ordered one for my P3-24 TODAY.:-) along with an Ortofon Black MM Cart. Seriously, very accurately controlling the speed of the platter is tops in list of important things. My dealer said the P3-24 with the TTPSU really is about the same to him as the P5 (sounding-wise). He feels the next jump in table to "hear" the difference is the P7 in the Rega line. |
i have the same TT as Mofi with the same PSU. when i got rid of the stock power cord on the Heed, the rega really took off. |
I bought it along with my P5 - it makes a huge difference, enough to say that it is really almost a mandatory upgrade. |
One of the best upgrades I did on my Rega P25 was the Heed Orbit outboard power supply. I have a FULL BLOWN (every urgrade you can do) P25 and the power supply upgrade was probably the best "bang for buck". |