Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay

Showing 3 responses by sychdeli

TJ , I believe this thread if informative and it's content's quality well above the average here on A'gon , congrats for initiating it.
Being a perpetual student type I don't post a lot unless I have something I consider meaningful to add.
I own the EMM , dCS and Zanden combos ( in 3 different rooms in my place) and I have listened to most of the other units mentioned by you, except for the Acoustic Arts.
So far I had not a clear favorite , but last week I got an APL modified TEAC Esoteric UX-01 ( called NWO-2) which beats them all , and has done that in a non subtle way.
I'm presently having a 5 way bi-amped ALE horn system in an acoustically treated room.
In short, the sound with this player is having both the dynamics , resolution and dramatic energy ( call it tension, or "having balls") of one group together with the delicacy of the second group.
It uses 20 DAC's per channel ( latest AKM crop) and 6H30 tube output.
Dan
Guidocorona,
Yes it is a NWO-2 , I forgot to mention this is an experimental prototype built only after I "cornered " Alex Peychev by paying in advance double the amount of the normal NWO-1. (which itself is fully upgradeable , cost to be determined later this year I understood).
Pride of ownership does not ranks high in my place, so the reason for my post is that simply I believe this is to date the best of the two worlds Teajay mentioned when he started the thread.
I'm an avid listener for the past 20 years and never had heard so "real" sound before , I believe they are so many excellent players out there, I own some of the best, but the difference between the NWO-2 and the rest is clear , you don't need hours of trained listening.
After 10 days , the initial impression stands.
Henryhk , thanks. EMM combo was happy in the company of an active tube pre ( any Supratek for instance ) , dCS can be used with a passive volume control, Zanden needed more gain and looked happy when matched with the DartZeel solid state pre. Amps - it's a long story , collected 3 dozen , including 2 custom made Electronluv, used to be an amp freak.
However, in the case of the NWO-2 APL tube modded TEAC Esoteric UX-01 ( 6H30 tube output) feeding a Mick Maloney 110 Hz active crossover ( I'm bi-amping) well, nothing comes close, of course in my system , room , ears aso. While I own 10,000 + vinyl, and considered the SME 30 / IO-J / Kondo phono combination the ultimate reference , digital now sounds as good and ocasionally better .
There, you can start now the flames :-)
Pleasant listening to everybody,
Dan