Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
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I have heard the AMR DP777 (in fact i just ordered one) and I thought it was the best DA I have thus far even surpassing my ridiculously good Metrum Octave/Diverter HR combination. I have listened to DCS gear before the Paganini Player I think, and to say it smoked the AMR.... that would not be my finding LOL!!! Now I know it is not the Debussy, but they have a house sound (as most gear does) and I would just say anyone looking at these two units should do themselves a favor and listen to them BOTH (fully burned in) in their system.

Please see the following:
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/DAC-reviews-Acoustic-Arts-Tube-DAC-Audio-Research-DAC8-Weiss-DAC202-dCS-Debussy-Meitner-MA-1
Never heard the AA so I have no opinion. I have painstakingly broken in a DP777 and if anyone tells me it got "smoked" I have to look twice. If anything "smokes" a DP 777 I want it :)

I thought the article was well written and his comparison to the analog rig was very good juxtaposition for his findings and as a metric. I did not find the unit to wane up and down as it broke in. The AMR steadily got better over the course of the 3 weeks I broke it in.
The former (don't know about the new CRL cables, I believe they changed them) FIM digital cable is BY FAR the finest digital (spdif) cable I have ever heard. It is not subtle and it was far far better than some very expensive others in direct comparison. Seems like my uncle had a good one.., Tara Labs (can't remember the model, sorry), I remember it was expensive and very very good. I think it was like $3k.
Check out the AMR DP 777, I've been blissfully happy with mine going on 4 years now :) before that I had the Octave Metrum with the Sonicweld Diverter 2 before that the MSB Power Dac and the Meitner Super Bidat and the Dynavox Dynastation 2. I've had the Ayon CD5 S in home for an extended period of time. I will honestly tell you that my AMR bests all of them and not by small amount. If the software is good it amazes close it can get to my analog rig. Listening to it as I type this :)

Whatever you get I hope you enjoy it.