Record Cleaning Using Vacuum Machine for Cleaning and Ultrasonic for Final Rinse


Readers unfamiliar should reference Precision Aqueous Cleaning of : Vinyl Records by Neil Anton, 3rd Edition, March 2024 available for free on line.  It will provide specific details that I will reference in passing here for brevity.  Specifically, look at Chapter III - Solution Preparation; Chapter VIII - Vacuum Cleaning Machines; and Chapter IX - Ultrasonic Cleaning Machines.  

Summary of Methodology (for very dirty records):1. Preclean 2. Pre-Wash 3. Rinse 4. Vacuum (partial) 5. Tergitol clean 6. Vacuum (partial) 7. Ultrsonic Final Rinse (2minutes) 8. Final Vacuum Dry  

Summary of Methodology (for new to v.good records): 1.Tergitol clean 2. Vacuum (partial) 3. Ultrasonic Final Rinse (2minutes) 4. Final Vacuum Dry                        

Materials Used:  Distilled Water obtained for local grocery store, Tergitol 15-S-9 (0,5ml/L); Liquinox (5ml/L).

Machines:  VPI MW-1 Cyclone; HumminGuru Nova

Brushes:  Osage, VPI, Record Doctor

billstevenson

@richardbrand,

If you are spinning 9-records in a 6L tank, there are 2-problems - too much mass in the tank and you are overloading the tank, and even at a slow spin speed you are developing enough fluid flow/motion to pretty much kill most cavitation energy.  As the book addresses, if the flow in the tank is >50% of the tank volume/min, the ultrasonic cavitation energy drops quickly.  Try 3-record space ~25-cm apart and spin for 20-min.  I suspect you will get good results, and the time to clean 9-records would be the same at 1-hr.

As far as dilution ratios, it's in Chapter XIV, but it's a bit spread-out, but here they are for Polysorbate 20 and your 6L tank

  • No rinse, wetting only:  0.0035 to 0.0050% (0.2 to 0.3-ml).  Adding 2.5% IPA has some limited benefit in getting a little better wetting, but add the IPA after adding Polysorbate 20 or the Polysorbate will not dissolve quickly
  • No rinse, with some detergency 0.008% (0.5-ml).  Adding 2.5% IPA can help with the getting a bit better detergency but add the IPA after adding the Polysorbate 20 or the Polysorbate will not dissolve very quickly.
  • Rinse recommended, full detergency:  0.0150% (0.9-ml).  Adding 2.5% IPA to this has limited benefit.

If you can buy the Nalgene Dropper Bottle at a low price - Nalgene Drop Bottle (2-Ounce) : Nalgene: Amazon.com.au: Sports, Fitness & Outdoors, it delivers 0.04-ml/drop.  Otherwise, assume an eye drop will deliver 0.05-ml/drop.

Good Luck,

Neil

@billstevenson Adding a small amount of lab grade ethyl alcohol to your final rinse will improve the groove wetting by lowering the surface tension and will improve the effectiveness of your final rinse, audibly so to my ears.

@orthomead,

Below is Figure 39 from the book that shows the change in surface tension of Ethanol and IPA.  There is not much difference between the two.  To get an appreciable surface tension decrease about 5% is required.  The record surface tension should be about 36-37 dynes/cm.  Getting the water surface tension close is enough to 'wet' the record.  

 Figure 39 – Water + Alcohol Surface Tensions of at 25°C from PACVR
(adapted with permission copyright 1995, American Chemical Society)

 Data for Figure 39 is from “Surface Tension of Alcohol + Water from 20 to 50°C”, Gonzalo Vazquez, Estrella Alvarez, Jose M. Navaza, Journal of Chemical and Engineering Data. 1 May 1995.    

 

Leaving the record slightly damp from the Teritol cleaning in the VPI seems to provide the reduction in surface tension in the rinse step in the HumminGuru.  Alternatively, the surfactant that is supplied by HumminGuru is also effective.  In my opinion, the addition of IPA to the US machine is not a good idea.  My thought process is a) it is not necessary and b) it could need to be in a higher concentration consistent with safety.

@antinn Of course you are correct.  I guess I was thinking primarily of the rinse.  Of interest, there was a thread on the internet about 10 years ago where the author (I cannot remember his name) did a fairly detailed side by side comparison of rinse (only) between IPA and ethanol and concluded that sonically the ETOH was superior.  I have adopted that since, but I think it was more opinion and not science based.  I mentioned it only because the OP noted that distilled water alone didn't penetrate the grooves.  So I guess it's safe to say that adding some IPA or ETOH will likely help with the rinse.  

@billstevenson I have used both IPA and ETOH in several different ultrasonic baths without problem.  I contacted the folks at Degritter and they stated ETOH was not a problem in their machine, as long as the concentration was below the flash point that Neil outlines well in his book.  It definitely improves wetability which I think is advantageous for a final rinse.  I have had no problems whatsoever with this approach with over 2500 cleanings and 3 different ultrasonic machines and consider it safe. Also, the cleaning solution for the Clearaudio double matrix allows for ETOH to be added.