Record Cleaning Fluids: RRL vs. L'Art du Son


Anyone compared these two or have any opinions. I'm leaning towards L'art du son because it appears to be much more cost effective ($45 will make you 4 quarts of record cleaning solution) but am not sure how much I should be worried about this vs. the RRL. Application/cleaning instructions appear to be very similar with both products. Anyone care to venture a guess as to how many records a 32 oz. bottle of RRL will clean?
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I've heard of folks getting more, but I average about 200 LP's per 32 oz. bottle using RRL fluids on a VPI 16.5. If you figure that rate, it comes out to about two bits per record if using BOTH the Deep Cleaner and Super Vinyl Wash on every LP. I have compared the L'Art (and nearly EVERY other commercial and home brew) to RRL and found the RRL fluids superior in most every way. Now, if one considers that RRL is viewed by MANY to be the purest, safest, and one of the most effective products AND one needn't worry about rinsing issues (actually no rinsing needed at all) the quarter per LP price is a bargain, IMHO. Adding 25 cents to any record costing more than 2-3 bucks is chicken feed in comparison and the performance is just outstanding. I'll have to admit to getting a chuckle and even being a bit annoyed when I hear someone who has spent, say, 30-40 bucks on an audiophile LP then piss and moan about cleaning fluids being "expensive". Ha! :-)

As I've said before, Albert Porter turned me on to the RRL products some time ago by sending me samples. In an effort to return the generousity, in kind, I'll send a couple-o-ounces of each RRL luid, gratis, to anyone wanting to try them (or compare them the the L'Art, as the case may be). All I ask is your feedback. Just e-mail me through this site.
Not unlike most of what Fremer says, IMHO, he doesn't know of what he speaks regarding record cleaning fluids. The RRL fluids DO disperse into the grooves, they just don't stay there. The idea is that they enter to the grooves, do their business, then bead on the SURFACE, not IN the grooves, with the gunk suspended in liquid to be vacuumed away.

I have used the AIVS stuff and found that it seriously compromises the high end. Only when thoroughly rinsed away with Super Vinyl Wash (AND NO EASY JOB, THAT) does this tell tale signature disappear. Way too much work. In the event of a really filthy LP, I generally look for another copy. But, if that is not possible, I'd go with the Vinyl-Zyme instead, everytime - it being MUCH easier to remove than the AIVS.