Recommendation for a replacement speaker cable


I believe this is my first time ever asking speaker cable advice, so bear with me.

System is:
Spatial Audio M3 Turbo S speakers
Line Magnetic 518ia integrated
LFD LE phono
Oppo105
AZ interconnects
Decware Styx speaker cables

I've had AZ Satori, Mapleshade Double Helix, and Clear Day Silver speaker cables. Looking for an upgrade under $600 new or used for the Decware Styx I'm running now. I'm not biased against BlueJean or Canare or Silnote or any other non-boutique brand; just a cable that will help me achieve the magic that combination of the LM and the Spatials have the potential for.
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Showing 2 responses by elliottbnewcombjr

Many years ago, after lots of reading cable research, I decided to believe in the detriment of ’skin effect’, frequencies traveling at minutely different speeds at the inside or outside surfaces of a wire.

Solution: small diameter solid core strands, individually insulated, twisted, within exterior jacket

Myself, the bargain hunter, make it myself type of person considered: tel cable: 4 strands. cat 5 8 strands.

I made a twisted pair of cat 5: 8 strands each leg. Years later my friend discovered a very favorable article about someone making/selling this type. My friend used two twisted pairs of cat 5: 16 strands each leg. We both still use these all these years later. He had high priced cables with elevators, tried others over the years, always goes back to his twisted cat 5’s.

I had 3 setups for comparison (tube mono blocks; tube receiver; SS) purposely used 3 different cables, WBT banana plugs: quickly could switched amp type. The cables all sounded the same to me. btw, no matter which wire, Tubes were always preferred to SS by everyone.

I have tried my friend’s high priced stuff here, I don’t hear differences, just stick with my home made cat 5.

Your 8 ft length is similar to mine. There are considerations against using long runs of Cat 5, perhaps someone can discuss that.
anyone still following

I stuck with the small diameter solid core concept, ended up with CAT8 22 awg x 8 = 13 awg

pasted from the 16 ohm thread:

I ordered everything for new DIY Speaker Cables

COST: $136.44 incl tax & delivery
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CONNECTORS (spades and adapters at speaker’s back panel)

spades, pure copper 2 set screws 8 pcs

https://www.wish.com/product/5f20285d021ca40450e0db12?from_ad=goog_shopping&_display_country_code=US&_force_currency_code=USD&pid=googleadwords_int&c=%7BcampaignId%7D&ad_cid=5f20285d021ca40450e0db12&ad_cc=US&ad_lang=EN&ad_curr=USD&ad_price=25.99&campaign_id=7203534630&gclid=CjwKCAiAirb_BRBNEiwALHlnDzHJI5sHBGgV6SU4SPObQJRDpIRlNlS-YE4jEMoNNitRfQDti9QnlhoCrSoQAvD_BwE&share=web

5 way binding post, pure copper fits 3/4" thick panel

https://www.wish.com/transaction/5fedeb5a8db692f0c1f84c07/product/5f4a22dd64ef860043939722/5f4a22dd64ef860043939723
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CABLE:

I ended up ordering a cat8 s/ftp (shielded, foiled twisted pairs)

When you twist them you lose length, I need 12 ft straight x 2 = 24’ x 2 spkrs = 48lf straight, a roll of 50ft would be short.

Speaker cables l/r should always be the same length (time of travel aligned, hah!).

I chose this cable, ordered 10 m (33ft) red; 10m (33ft) black, each leg 16lf to make 12 ft: red/black twisted.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174307181712

22 awg, 8 solid (not stranded) OFC copper S/FTP construction = 13 awg

This chart shows relative gauges, physical sizes, and resistance.

https://www.rapidtables.com/calc/wire/wire-gauge-chart.html

two basic choices cat gauges: largest 22 awg; smallest 26 awg

22 awg x 8 = 13 awg (+152% area above 26

26 awg x 8 = 17 awg (+152% resistance above 22

22 awg solid = less flexible is not an issue for me.


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CONDUCTIVITY CHART

https://www.bluesea.com/resources/108/Electrical_Conductivity_of_Materials

silver is only a little more conductive than copper

gold and aluminum are only a little less conductive than copper

brass is a lot less conductive than copper

COPPER TYPES (hard to verify true facts)

often text says solid but diagram shows stranded; text says 23 awg, chart shows 26 awg, and seller’s answers are often not clear.

https://www.thomasnet.com/articles/metals-metal-products/types-of-copper-wire/

’Pure Copper’, (99.9% pure) often in text, with or without OFC

is not in the above article, it is in this article,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen-free_copper

C11000 - also known as Electrolytic-Tough-Pitch (ETP). This is the most common copper. It is universal for electrical applications. ETP has a minimum conductivity rating of 100% IACS and is required to be 99.9% pure. It has 0.02% to 0.04% oxygen content (typical).

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L PADS

will be disconnected, new + wire direct from crossover for both horns
(one as a test first)

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WOOFERS, remove, check cones

Picking these suckers up onto a low bench for the work is a job for two masked men. Recent MRI: I now have 4 herniated discs, one tear, pinched nerve.