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Recommend an amp + pre for ESL 57s and a new turntable (way out of my league)

Hi all, longtime lurker now starting my semi-serious venture into all of this. I was recently gifted a pair of Quad ESL 57s, a Well Tempered Labs Amadeus GTA turntable, and a Miyajima Labs Shilabe cartridge. I need a preamp and amplifier for the system on a budget of ~$1000 - $1500. I currently have an old Harman Kardon Stereo Festival (TA-230) receiver, which is just a cool piece of old, barely working, shits-n-gigs gear I used to drive some junky speakers with in college. It hasn't been plugged in in two years and even if its still works, I don't think it's a great match for my system. What would you recommend? I am most interested in listening to some old mono blues, jazz, and folk LPs I have, and I imagine most of the records I collect in the future will be similar (I know I have a stereo cart, which I've always understood to be fine for this?).

Some guiding questions:

- Seems like a favorite for the ESLs are a pair of heathkit UA-1s. Another that I'm seeing well recommended is the Dyna st35. Thoughts? Does it make sense to spend ~$700 - $1000 on a nice amp and get something more basic for the pre in the $400 range? (Rega fono??)

- Should I get a nicer preamp to match my cart and go with something more basic wrt amplification? Not sure what is good in the way of cheaper(?) amps to drive these speakers.

- In the event that I stretch my budget and wait a bit between buying one and the other (to save back up lol), would I get more out of a ~$1200 amp and the cheapest preamp that will work, or a ~$1200 pre and the cheapest amp that will work? What would the cheapest preamp and amp that "will work" be in the meantime? What would be in the $1200 range for each, respectively?

Thank you if you took the time to read this! I will be cleaning the dust off the Quads in the meantime.

arg6442
elliottbnewcombjr
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ChatGPT answer

https://chatgpt.com/c/68a5ebde-4a9c-832c-83e4-160cc2d34140

what amp for quad esl 57 speakers

ChatGPT said:

The Quad ESL-57 is a legendary electrostatic speaker, but it’s also notoriously picky about amplifiers. Because of its impedance curve (dips below 2 ohms at high frequencies, ~16 ohms in the midrange) and its limited power handling (about 15–20 watts before arcing risk), you can’t just throw any amp at it. The wrong amp can literally fry the panels.

Here’s what works well:

✅ Best Matches

  • Quad II tube monoblocks
    – Classic pairing. About 15 W from KT66 tubes, very safe for ESL-57s.

  • Other low-to-medium power tube amps
    – EL34 or KT66 push-pull designs (15–30 W) are ideal.
    – Popular choices: Leak Stereo 20, Radford STA-25, EAR 509, or modern tube amps with good current handling.

  • Modern tube options
    – VAC, Audio Research (lower-powered models), Conrad-Johnson.

⚠️ Solid State (use carefully)

  • Some early British SS amps (Quad 303, Quad 405 with protection mods) can be OK.

  • Avoid high-powered, wide-bandwidth solid-state amps (like big Krells, Brystons, etc.) — they can arc the panels.

  • If you go SS, pick something stable into low impedance, but not crazy powerful.
    – Quad 303 (45 W) is a famous safe match.
    – Spectral, Naim, or newer current-limited designs can also work with caution.

❌ Avoid

  • Big, high-current amps (Krell, Mark Levinson, modern Class D) — risk of frying the speaker.

  • Amps over ~50 W continuous power.

  • Anything unstable into capacitive loads.

👉 In summary:

  • Best safe choice: A 15–25 W tube amp (Quad II, Leak Stereo 20, Radford STA-25).

  • Safe solid-state: Quad 303, possibly a carefully chosen Quad 405.

Do you want me to suggest current production amps (modern gear you can still buy new) or are you mainly interested in vintage classics that match the ESL-57’s heritage?

maam522a
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If your budget is in the $1500 range - in my opinion, the best high current dual mono amp and preamp on the used market may be the Aragon 4004 mkII and the Aragon 24k with Phono Stage and IPS outboard power supply.  Really gets a grip on my Apogee Stages and Maggies.

peter_s
1,355 posts
 

The Aragon sounded great on my 989s.  I think the Bedini is a great choice.  It was easy to replace caps and still sounded great.  Let us know what you decide. 

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