Quantum can be such an ugly word and makes a lot of people rather nervous. I move we just use the term, advanced physics. That way, everyone will be happy. |
Mapman wrote,
"If the physics to play it back need be so far advanced beyond that required to create it in the first place to get it "right", I will still probably not be happy. But that's just me...."
Yes, it's probably just you as the laser in CD players is advanced physics, quantum physics to be precise. Smile, be happy. |
Mapman wrote,
"At least one might sniff out the snake oil easier when the term "quantum", is used in marketing materials to explain why something is so great when the advertiser knows perfectly well few if any will understand."
I am kind of getting the impression you'd prefer that manufacturers either refrain from providing explanations altogether or else provide some fluffy pablum that they feel everyone will understand. One also has to wonder if it's really true that few if any understand quantum mechanics. It's been around for 80 years. And quantum mechanical devices have been around in audio for at least 15 years. My guess is people are suspicious and superstitious. |
Mapman wrote,
"No my observation has been that the term quantum is often used as a marketing ploy to make something appear more sophisticated and valuable then it would be otherwise.
I am a fan of keeping communications as simple and accurate as possible, not muddying the waters or obfuscating. So your impression is incorrect Geofkait."
But no one has ever used the word quantum as a marketing ploy, at least not for audio devices, not in fifteen years. I suggest you might be a wee bit overly suspicious. If you are unfamiliar with the principles of quantum mechanics, as you have intimated, I can certainly understand your dilemma. |
Mapman wrote,
"Well, anyone can do a Google search on "Quantum Audio Tweak" and decide for themselves about that."
Really? How, pray tell, can they do that when, as you believe, very few if anyone understands quantum mechanics?
Actually things are even worse than that. If you've been following the ongoing debates, there seems to be very little consensus on a great number of audio issues, including tiny bowl resonators, directionality in wires, extremely low frequency generators, why high end fuses sound better than stock fuses, why high end cables and power cords sound better than stock ones, why demagnetizers and deionizers improve the sound of cables, CDs and LPs, crystals in room corners and other locations, Mpingo discs, colorization of CDs and why systems frequently sound harsh and distorted at medium or higher volumes. |
Timmy, see Davvie's post.
Geoffkait |
Polk432 wrote,
"I've borrowed Bybee, Shakti, Tice and other tweeks from a friend that used to be in the audio business, and I'll take a Rolex any day. Even he admitted that they made little if any difference in sound."
I hate to judge before all the facts are in, but it appears, at least for your dealer friend, to be a case of operator error or an insufficiently resolving system as the tweaks you mentioned have excellent track records. C'est la vie. |
Polk432 wrote,
"Who would admit that they paid lots of money for something that made little to no difference?
If you have good equipment you don't need tweeks. If you like wasting money, fine. I'll still take a Rolex."
I'm kind of getting this weird feeling you just answered your own question.
:-)
I'm a Timex Ironman kind of guy, I guess. |
Springbok10 wrote,
"The Tice clocks. I actually bought them in 1991. Still have them as a reminder of my youthful stupidity and the superior salesmanship of The Cable Company. I look at them daily, leering and sneering at me in justifiable superiority at my idiocy and hope to be smarter each day."
Perhaps way back in 1991 your system was not resolving enough to hear the Tice Clocks. Have you by any chance listened to the Tice Clocks recently? One assumes your system is a lot more revealing now than it was in 1991. |
Mpingo discs get pinged a lot, too. Which is really quite funny considering what even one will do in just the right place. |
Gosh, Mapman, you don't say? I'm getting the distinct feeling you're not my kinda guy. :-) |
Mapman, you sound like you have a lot of experience with exotic tweaks that don't work. I trust you got your money back. :-) |
