Reason for buying old/classic turntables

There is a quality to some of the older models, like a Thorens TD 124, a Garrard 301, a Dual 1229, a Rek O Kut 11, that just seems right. Properly set up, the deliverly of those older, idler wheel turntables is amazing, especially on solo piano. I abandoned my Linn LP12 with nearly 8k invested in mods, motors, arm etc, in favor of a Dual 1229 which I installed a Grace 747 arm on. My second choice would be to find a good Thorens TD-124. Belt drive, direct drive can both deliver good results, but their is just something about the pace, pitch and power of an idler driven table. Also, the build quality, and engineering is first rate. By far, the best listening experience I have ever had.

Audiofeil, Wrong! My father is a machinist. I have seen him create some of the most incredibly precise parts, with tolerances in the ininth degree from old presses, and lathes using extremely old hand match machine calipers. You don't think that Thorens, Dual, Garrard etc, knew how to build a bearing or a race? Or that one built then, wouldn't be as good as one built now? HA, ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha ha ... can't stop laughing... :) By the way, I wear a 1874 Eligin B.W. Raymond pocket watch that has more precision in it than any turntable need every have, and it is well over one hundred years old. (It was my great, great grandfathers) No computers or sophisticated manufacturing techniques were used to build it extremely tiny incredibly precise parts. Oh, and keeps magnificent time.

Audiofeil,

"Any fool would know that.
Even J____.
Who doesn't have a clue btw/"

We should be kind and respectful to one another. Why do you always have to put some type of degrading remark towards someone in your comments?

This is supposed to be a kind albeit witty discussion. Insults are not needed, maturity would be appreciated.

Take a pill or something before writing your next one.

Lithojoe,

I never said anything about enjoying erroneous or useless information, in fact I can't stand it. I can take heat and a good argument. However, when it comes to insulting one another, I have no place in my life for that type of dialogue. I prefer discussing the topic and enjoying the memebers view point, none of which should include an insult. Isn't that the point, to gather eachothers view, and to enrich our hobby by such disscussion? Least that is what I thought.
Kind regards,
Norman

Lithojoe,

Will do. I will work on whatever it is I need to work on. All smiles, really.