Question about older stuff

The same dilemma exists with buying both old, new and recent gear which is - will you like the sound? To be truly satisfied with your purchases (unless you get lucky) it will be necessary to audition the components first. Much of the quality sound that any system achieves comes from the synergy between the components and between the components (mostly but not restricted to the speakers only) and the room. Another consideration is if an older component can still be repaired, if needed, (are the parts still available?), some odd ball resistors and such are not. In your price range I, personally, would consider a relatively new/used integrated amp (an easy/out I know). I own a Musical Fidelity (now discontinued) X-A1 amplifier that I purchased new, on close out, for $500.00. It sounds as good (to me) as much more expensive SS gear that is in current production. To find out if you agreed with my assessment of the amp would, once again, require an audition. When in the past I have been unable (or too lazy) to audition equipment, I at have at the least discussed the component with people that have used it in a like or same system (I recently did this with power cords and got lucky:-). This is also a great thing about the Net and these types of chat rooms, which make this information available to those who don't mind typing a little bit as well as reaching out to complete strangers for feedback and info, which you are already doing and which you might even want to take it a little further with the names and models of the gear that you are considering for your system. If you don't get many replies, don't feel bad as I doubt if the combined masses here have had experience with every component ever manufactured, but we might also be quite surprised at the number of pieces that have gone through this mass of hands.

I am facisinated by the older equipment from the 80's, which is an outright bargain compared to "mid-fi" new equipment. I would not go back to the tube equipment of the 70's or 60's personally being worried about capacitor problems and such. But in my view you can definately get a better system cheaper if you go with older used equipment. (since you are around $400 for the preamp).

Thanks for all the responses. I am looking at getting a marantz 7t preamp around $300 on ebay, but I have also been reading about Audio Alchemy DLC(around $200) which sounds like it would be pretty good except for I would need a phono section. I would pair it with PSB Image series speakers still undecided between 4,5 or 6t and I am using right now a dynaco 410 amp so I might keep the amp until I get more money. This is what I am looking at purchasing so if anyone has more comments that would be great.

It is hard to answer this in general. Here are a few personal impressions. I still have acces to a fairly large amount of Marantz, CJ and ARC equipment that I owned from the late 60's onward (sold to friends, moved to second system). Yes, there are capacitor problems after awhile and you may want to replace them if you are handy with a soldering iron. However some very good ARC and CJ stuff from the 70's that I know is still quite good can be had for cheap (check ebay). I think the advances in very high end power amps have been less than in other electronics. I would never buy an old CD player. Preamps from the early 80's are still decent but unless you want a phono stage built in, the CJ and ARC preamps do show their age compared to newer designs. I think a significant amount of progress was made in speaker performance during the 80's and would be leary of older multi driver systems unless you are pretty sure of the performance. Just my opinion.

Musiclover, Keep in mind, that the purchase of a $400.00 amp brand new today, yields about $80.00 in parts costs including chassis. I dont know about you, but I would much rather have ,say, a used Aragon or Perraux Amp that sold in the 12 to $1500. region, when new, for the same amount. I am reminded of the time I purchased the original, famed NAD 3020 integrated amp, new for $175.00. We tried improving the sonics by attaching very short MIT interconnects between pre-out and amp-in. The rca phono plugs were soldered directly to the pc board, rather than mounted directly to the back chassis. The pressure of the wire eventually cracked the rca jack right off the board. Just an example/lesson, that cheap will always yield cheap....Frank