Quack System Upgrades


Ok, so what's the most ridiculous "SNAKE OIL" upgrade you have come across?

Let the fun begin HAHAHA :) :)

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Showing 6 responses by mb1audio02

Blue Jeans Cable. Snake oil at its finest.

That said, if you get snake oiled, you've got no one but yourself to blame. Buy a snake oil detector. They're not that expensive and they work really well.
"They make no wild claims about technology like some cable manufacturers. "

Actually, they do make some wild claims. I asked them about some cables and what to expect if I tried them in my system. They told me I could put them next to some really expensive cables made with exotic materials, and I would hear a tiny difference at best. Most likely, I won't hear any difference. I believe they also make that claim in print on their web site.

I put them in my system and compared them to cables costing a lot more, and the differences were big and unmistakable.  Anyone could hear the difference. Blue Jeans cable clearly didn't perform as well as my expensive cables so I label them snake oil. If they were to say our $25 cables can compete with others costing $40 or $50, I would say that sounds reasonable. But up against cost no object cables, they're statements are wildly misleading.

I know better, as I'm sure most of the people here do as well. But a new person just getting into audio could easily be sold on Blue Jeans claims. They don't yet have a point of reference for comparison. So, if they just stay with Blue Jeans cables, they may never realize they're systems full potential. Yes, we all know that some expensive cables are overpriced snake oil, but it has to work both ways. Just because they sell low cost items, doesn't get them off the hook. 
" Where's the funny stuff?? C'mon guys, lets have some fun. I can't be the only member who enjoys a good amount of levity."

Not going to happen. I didn't get what I wanted for Christmas yesterday, and I'm pissed. 
" One could argue that that the cables sold by Blue Jeans are the identical wire that most likely a good amount of the music we listen to were recorded with.  

So then somehow cost no object cables are reversing the effect of the cable used in the production of our music and then providing a more realistic rendering of the original production on replay?"

I've heard this argument many times and I've never understood the logic behind it. Cables use in a playback system have a different job to do than the ones use in a recording studio. Do speaker companies make brass tweeters because that's what cymbals are made out of?

Most people would agree that a playback system is supposed to recreate the original event with as much transparency as possible. We all know that this is done with varying degrees of success, but that's the goal. If a cable used in a recording studio has a certain coloration, you don't use the same cable in the playback system, you use cables and components that are transparent so that the system can reproduce the sound of the cable in the recording studio. What happens if they used more than one type of cable in the studio?
" Blue Jeans Cables are great. Especially if you consider overall value (price to quality to performance). I have personal experience with their speaker wire and RCA interconnects. If you put them in a system compared to much more expensive wire and perceive a "big and unmistakable" difference you should call into question which set of cables is reproducing the sound correctly (measurably closer to faithful reproduction of source) as opposed to which you merely prefer."

Wouldn't calling them great be a bit premature? According to your own post, you first need to determine what cable is reproducing the sound more correctly?

"measurably closer to faithful reproduction of source"

I've been waiting my whole life for someone to show me how to do that. Maybe you'll be the first?

" auxinput270 posts12-26-2016 3:25pm

I would not bang on Blue Jean cable that much here. I also wouldn’t say that it’s snake oil. First thing, it’s the job of any dealer/manufacturer to try to sell their product, so if you ask them if their product is better than a different product, they are obviously going to try to influence you to think their product is better."

If you don't want to bang on BJ cables, that's your decision and I respect it. But I call it like I see it.  They made the claims, I put their cables to the test and I found that they were the ones making the wild claims. Its not my fault they oversold the products. They play the game just like all the other companies.