Blue Jeans Cables are great. Especially if you consider overall value (price to quality to performance). I have personal experience with their speaker wire and RCA interconnects. If you put them in a system compared to much more expensive wire and perceive a "big and unmistakable" difference you should call into question which set of cables is reproducing the sound correctly (measurably closer to faithful reproduction of source) as opposed to which you merely prefer.
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@mb1audio02 Your assertion as to Blue Jeans cables wild claims is, by your own admission, something "they told you". I’m sure you would agree that it is conceivable you misunderstood what you were told. Not saying that you did misunderstand, just a possibility. So, can you point to something written on their website that makes a wild claim? This way there is no (or less) ambiguity involved. To your claim BJC has no point of reference, much of the data is already in the public domain. For instance, in my view this data sheet certainly does provides a frame of reference. https://www.belden.com/techdatas/english/5T00UP.pdf. May I see the data sheet of the cables that you claim significantly out performed the 5T00UP ? |
@astro58go I take your statement: "They don't believe in cable directionality making a sonic difference. IME, this doesn't hold water." to mean you do believe in speaker wire cable directionality and BJC is wrong in their position on the matter. In any case, could you provide the data sheet of whatever reference speaker cable you consider better than the Belden 10 gauge sold by BJC, and specify what in particular is better about it? |
@astro58go Your reply is well articulated and more than fair enough to warrant a response. Thanks for that, as some others on the forum immediately take offense and can never "agree to disagree". Please allow me to answer your points/questions. No, I am not an electrical engineer. However, I did study electrical engineering at Thomas Edison Technical/Vocational high school for four years and as a general rule tend to give more "weight" to all things that can be explained scientifically/objectively as opposed to opinions/subjectively. As you indicate "listening is truth" and this is the basis of your assertion regarding cable performance, you certainly are entitled in that case to claim one is "better" than another. Whatever your preference and pragmatic findings, so be it. Nevertheless, there is nothing "quack" about BJC, because, among other things, they do not claim (in writing) their cable sounds or is better than anyone else's. The merely point out that resistance is by far the most dominant factor. I personally do not believe in cable "burn-in". I do believe if you run more current through it than it is rated to handle, you can/will notice something burning. As for directionality, there are numerous threads on the forum about this. One recent thread https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/interconnects-some-have-directional-indicatorss-why? suggests this could be the result of one end being shielded to ground. However, this is something that could apply to RCA interconnects, not speaker wire. There is (or should be) no directionality where speaker wire is concerned. But again, given the "positive sonic differences" you are hearing, by all means use whatever you prefer. I believe I also pointed out elsewhere in this thread that while "differences" can be heard, I simply question whether or not they are truly "positive". |
astro58go, all good. Sorry for any misunderstanding. I believe I already responded to your original post in this thread, dated 12-29-2016 10:57, on 2-29-2016 12:48pm. I was trying to convey I wasn't entirely sure what you meant. I took it to mean you do believe in speaker wire cable directionality and BJC is wrong in their position on the matter. Am I misunderstanding? Somewhat related, here's yet another recently and lively discussion on the forum. https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/who-thinks-5k-speaker-cable-really-better-than-generic-14awg-... |
@bcowen no, I haven't listened to a cable before and then after being "cooked". I get what you and others are saying about the substantial difference. My point hasn't been addressed, however, which is on what basis are you/anyone else saying that the substantial difference is an "improvement" as in more accurate reproduction of the source? If you mean to say it is your preference, that is perfectly fine/acceptable. If something else, then I reiterate that by all means please produce a data spec sheet of the particular cable, let's compare it to https://www.belden.com/techdatas/english/5T00UP.pdf and review what elements are "better". |