Putting together turntable rig


Hi,

reaching out to the community in hope of some help regarding putting together a analog rig. Since now I exclusively listen digital. I‘am very happy with my Setup, but was thinking of maybe updating my Audio Analogue AADAC since it is the weakest link.

But about three months ago I have the urge to get a turntable. Had then a loaner from a friend of me, a Dr. Feickert Volare with a Jelco arm and Hana cartridge, Phono Preamp was from Audio Analogue. I was really impressed and enjoyed it a lot.

My chain at the moment:
- Viva Audio Solistino with 845 Elrog’s and vintage tubes
- Cube Audio Nenuphar
- 432evo Aeon Server/Roon Core
- the mentioned AADAC
- Good copper cable’s 
- SOTM Switch 
- Townshends Pucks under all components 
- Audioplan Power-Filter/Star and Plant‘s

I do have already something in mind:
- Dr. Feickert Woodpecker 
- Arms something like Viv Lab Rigid Float, Reed 3P, Origin Live Conqueror 
- No idea for a cartridge yet 
- Preamp Rike Natalija 

It‘s not written in stone, it‘s just the direction I was thinking.

The problem is I do have not the funds right now to get everything at once. There are now two ways that come to my mind. Save long enough and by everything at once. Or, get some “good” parts, mix them for the beginning with some “cheaper“ used ones, and replace them afterwards with the desired ones.
But if going that mixed way, how to start, what would be first priority’s to get the most out of it?

Please excuse my humble english.

Your opinions would be greatly appreciated!

greenhorn20

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Thanks for the suggestions, it’s greatly appreciated, but I think my writing was not clear enough. 
To answer the question, I do have just a hand full of vinyl, and listening to Jazz, Blues, Classic Rock and Classic.


I try to get a feeling which component I should value the most for the begining, since I can not afford all of my final component’s at once. 
For example, is it better to get a:

1. $6000 turntable - $1000 arm - $2000 cartridge - phono preamp around $1000

or

2. $3000 turntable incl. the arm - $2500 cartridge - phono preamp $4500

or

3. $1500 turntable - $7000 for arm and cartridge - $1500 phono preamp

The weakest parts will then be updated further down the road.

Will visit tomorrow a local dealer for information, but wanted to get some more opinions.

Sorry for not being clear enough the first time.



Thanks to everyone for sharing their thoughts and experience!

I‘m on the go now, will answering later that day with more time.
So, went this morning to the local dealer. Since my complete setup is from him, we know us pretty well by now. He is a absolutely honest, trustworthy and very professional guy.

He echoed some of the thoughts you have already shared with me.

First off all he recommended me, since I start only with a handful of records, to finish my digital chain. He loves vinyl to death, he understands my itch to go parallel analog. If I get a new DAC and the wish to go analog doesn’t disappear, I should start to collect records ahead. This makes things easier. 

He suggested 3 DAC‘s: Aries Cerat Helene, Rockna Wavedream Signature and Lumin X1. 
Helene and X1 I heard already some month ago at his store.

Right now he doesn’t have all three in stock, but when he does, he visit me at home with all three of them. We listen for a evening together, I can choose one, keep it for a week to make up my mind and decide then.

If I  keep my AA DAC and choose to go analog, he says,  getting the table and arm as best I could afford, and build the rest around it with time.

Meanwhile he loaned me a Rockna Wavelight.

Lucky me to have a dealer like this near by!


Thank’s for all the great feedback and suggestions!
Just realized that I forgot the important fact, that the dealer bings also a Woodpecker Setup along with some records. This way I can get within a week familiar with the tt and one dac, to see which way I want to go.
@grk thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and experience, it’s appreciated.

The budget is there, have saved up for some time already, the plan was always to upgrade the dac, since it is the weakest link within my chain. But as mentioned the wish for a turntable came up. And the Dr. Feickert Volare loaner didn’t make things easier at all. :-)
The dealer I am referring to is very close to where I am living. Sometimes I‘ll visit him and we just sitting there talk and listen to some records, or digital stuff. And since I have a job where a lot of fine mechanics with tight tolerances are involved, I always was amazed by those beautiful tt. 
Yes, I agree as well, I‘ll hate buying two times my self. If I go the route with the turntable setup, the wisest would be, to have more patience and save up more to get it right the first time. 
Meanwhile I‘am enjoying the Rockna Wavelight dac. My AADAC is already a good one, but the Rockna is clearly a step above and really showing that the AADAC is the weakest link. 
I‘ll wait until my local dealer has everything in stock, then I‘ll decide.

The only three brands he has, within my price range, most stuff costs even more, is Gold Note, Acoustic Signatur and Dr. Feickert.
Thanks again. @dover @bajaed 

He has a Acoustic Signature Storm MK II at a special price, since it is a demo unit. But tending to the Feickert‘s as well.
Hi @pindac, restoration/repairs for clocks, pocketwatches and wristwatches. Sometimes, if there are no spareparts available, they must be made.
Thanks to you all for the additional informations, as always, it’s appreciated! I‘ll have a look at links as well.

In regards of building a TT, I‘am not seeing this happening, as I have not enough time to start a project like this. Although I love my job, I‘am equally happy to spend not more time as necessary in the workshop.

In the meantime I‘ll bought some records. It‘s really amazing, these are 40-60 years old originals. Where they have already ready been, how many households/hands? Contemporary witnesses.
Hi, 

just want to say again thanks and give some feedback. It’s ten days now since I have my TT setup. At first I wanted to play a DAC and TT within the same price range head to head against each other, but decided then against it. I had the small and big Rockna’s for a week to play with, but the analog components weren’t in stock. The Rockna’s were very impressive, but my heart was already set on a TT. As I mentioned in my first post I enjoy listening to my digital chain, although I am aware that the DAC is the weakest link in my digital setup. With the TT I have now a second and different approach to music which I like.

I decided to go with:

- Dr. Feickert Woodpecker in Zebrano, black Alu and the platter upgrade 

- Origin Live Conqueror 12” with inner cable in silver and outer in copper 

- Grado Ref.3 cartridge 

- Rike Natalija MM/MC 3 it’s a german Brand, made in Germany and tube based 

Of course it’s new now and I’am exited, but I really do love it. Very musical and engaging. The stage, separation, airiness and detail is stunning. The dealer as the manufacturer told me, that the Rike needs quite long to burn in, 200 hours, because of the capacitors which are used. Right now I have about 80 hours.

Over the last weeks I bought some records. 50 at the moment and it’s a mixture from old fist press and high quality new ones. That’s my base to start with. From now on I try to get every month at least 4 new records. 

As for now I’am really happy that I decided to go with the TT.

@eric5kim I’m very happy and glad that I made the move. Collected 175 records since then. Got me a Elma ultrasonic cleaner to get the most out of the records. It’s amazing when the record is well pressed and in M or NM condition that they play very quite. At the moment I have stopped looking/lusting over other equipment, just collecting records and enjoying the music. That’s a good sign!