Put that in your pipe(s) and smoke it

«Freedom is never free» -Groucho Marx

above is the first line of his post aimed at me.

Aimed at you? Aimed at one of your many "handles" ? Poor little thing, i apologize to anybody behind the "handle" indeed....You never aimed first probably....And probably this kenjit, or this millercarbon are like you said they are, like all those you will name, especially those with only one "handle"....

:)

My best....

22 posts and you insult already , nevermind the reason, 2 peoples, nevermind their posts content...

You are a rare bird....Congratulations!

I suggest to you to read about NDE and Dr. Eben Alexender a neurologist... You may learn something and not about audio tough....If you dont read book his conferences are  in youtube....Fascinating stuff.....

I apologize for my answer to your post but i hate those who choose collectively designed victim or easy target when they enter in a bar or in a new job or a new forum....Hating is stupid yes, but i am not perfect....

It remind me scapegoating in the schoolyard.....( i was not the victim but i was not in the effervescent crowd either)

Enjoy your life but be cautious.....
:)

Distinguishing something is not the same as separating something....Distinguishing the principle that must define real economy is not separating it from politic, and distinguishing politic from economy is not separating politic from economy....It is on the contrary linking the 2 in a reality where the 2 are working together and not warring....

Distinguishing without separating is call thinking...

If you say that this is academic thinking about the wings of angel, this is precisely killing the working creative brain ....I dont think that left politic and right politic has anything to do with reality nowadays....They dont work together anymore.... They are out of reality in their own bubble....

And there is something in a society more important than politic and economy in a sense, this is the spiritual principle linked to education for example....Education cannot be submissive to economy or politic....The principle linked to education are fundamental and absolutely not reducible to economy or politic in any ways....

But i will not annoy anyone and will not go further.... I apologize for my "academic" endeavour....
But thinking is "academic" only in non thinking circle by the way or in bad "academic" circles of the right or of the left kind....

It seems i am too esoteric also even in audio, because i think with experiments by myself.... :)

Just a word about the dissection of a frog, in a left or in a rightwing  way, my thinking is precisely about what is the real frog? And my answer is the real frog is not like those who dissect it or use its corpse pretend it is or must be ....We can compare the triple metabolism  of a real living frog with the principle governing his triple metabolism with the three principles governing a living society....


My best to you nonoise....

The conflating of economy and politics is precisely what the 2 worst ideology of the last century has in common....Reducing economy to politics of the worst kind, or reducing politics to economy of the worst kind is the same blindful road to autodestruction in opposite ways....

Any sane and sound mind must create the distinctive concepts that pertains and defines the 2, politic and economy, in their qualitative complementary dimensions of the healthy working social body...

More and more conflating between them of the left or of the right kind is a road to catastrophy by lost of reality in opposite ways but toward the same autodestruction....

What do we loose in loosing the reality? Not only reality itself but also we loose our own creative mind....

Politics and economy cannot be described by a Venn diagram even here and even for describing only the people here...When we can describe politics with a Venn diagram it is an ominous sign indeed, resembling to the guy painting himself in the corner of his balcony without an escape route...the 2 parties alternative in north America and in some other part of the world resemble charybde and scyllas alternatives....It was not mean to be that way in the beginning, but to be a division of political work akin to breathing movements on the social body....It is no more like that at all....

Asking people to take a definitive side once and for all is like asking someone to paint himself in a corner.... Who is so fool to do it for himself to begins with?

Saying that people has no choices except these 2 one is very simplistic....

It remind me in audio of the useless war between digital and analog, or tubes and processors, or other apparent "superior" warring alternatives... In reality the 2 are needed to begin an understanding and an improving audio... In the same way left and rightwing positions are need together to understand a reality more complex than these 2 visions, even when they must work together...( war, pandemics, and also day to day efficient poitical work)


Politics to be real, like an ethical dialogue, suppose a "collaboration" for example between 2 parties in relation to an external reality participated by the 2 parties.... But if there is no more a common reality agreed upon by the 2 parties, there is war and no dialogue is possible...No political concrete effective solution is possible but only extremist ideology pertaining to one or the other party, when winning is more important than the search for truth...

Samething for economy, when the main part of the economical activity has no link at all with reality (material day to day economical trivial activities has no link nowadays with Wall Street).

Then understanding reality nowadays is impossible if we divided reality from the 2 parties sides, except to make useless Venn diagram...

I am afraid that thinking is necessary not more sophisticated cataloguing of anything with the 2 parties ideology....

I then suggest to ban any political militant partying opinions from the audio forum, except non partisan remarks in real politics....And nowadays real politics is not translatable no more in only left or only right simplistic scheme and games....

This lost of reality is the tragedy of our times.....

My best to all....

My speech is not the same with my love one, with my friends, with a work collegue or with a customer, not the same with an old lady waiting in a line or with a scientist, nor is it the same with the pope, or with an imam, or with a buddhist monk.... Why? Because being free and polite i discern with whom i speak with....

Because i use my free speech ability (not rights) to translate my feelings, ideas, approprietely... What we say and the style or manner to say it matter...

I never discuss quantum dynamic with my grandmother, nor will discuss free speech "rights" here ... And any forum is linked with his own regulatory speech recommendations....It is a good thing to respect them and a good thing also from the regulators to allow some flexibility....A good thing to any of us NOT to use the "button" except in some evident case of disrespect....I never used it before because it is better i think to read "example" of stupidity than to erase them all, most of the times....Censorship is not my first reaction....


Interesting discussion are interesting only if respect is all along the discussion.....

If respect is there even some politic arguments are interesting.... But experience here dictate to me total restraint about that precise road fork because people most of the times think less with one another than they speak useless opinions mantras.....Politics is way much complicated than audio matters anyway....If people cannot agree in audio basic facts imagine politics.... :)

Then it is way better to speak audio, philosophy, psychology etc, but not politics or religions....

:)

« Freedom can vanish from our own tought process without even signaling his departure, and freedom can disapear from public speech without even be remembered; but freedom in the heart cannot be erased without your consent, his name is love... » Anonymus

I speak myself too much....

« Intelligence grow with silence»- Groucho Marx

« It is the reverse brother!»- Harpo Marx

« OK, It is better to stay mute»- Anonymus