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PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium

Hi,

First and foremost let me say I’m not trying to start any war of words, bash any manufacturers products or any HiFi dealers. I’m just stating my humble opinion. In the words of Denzel Washington in the movie Malcom X we’ve been hoodwinked and led astray when it comes to the whole audiophile phenomenom. I recently owned a ARC REF 5SE, REF 110 and ARC solid state DS450M mono-block amps. They were driving my Magnepan 20.7’s and my Meridian music streamer. I just switched all of it out for a PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium HP amplifier with KT150 tubes and a PL Dialogue Premium preamplifier and two these ears my Maggie’s have never sounded so good. I’m going to add another PL Dialogue Premium HP next week and then I can honestly say I am done with my search for high fidelity sound. People please don’t let other dealers and manufacturers tell you, you need to spend $$$$ to achieve musical nirvana it’s all hype. I fell for that crap and I’m really embarrassed to say it. PrimaLuna is a superior musical instrument that honestly should cost 4 to 5 times more for their Dialogue Premium line. The build and features are second to none. Please please don’t let these dealers tell you other wise. It’s all about the benjamins and they want you to invest your hard earned money in there over priced crap. I invite anyone to listen to my system and tell me this isn’t as good as it gets and that this is not how music should sound. I live in Seattle and I  reached out to Upscale Audio’s Kevin Deal after 1 1/2 weeks of watching his videos and banging my head against the wall over my inferior lifeless musical experience. I took a leap of faith after reading several reviews and seriously doing some home work and made decision. Wow PL and KD thank you for not making me look like and absolute fool. I honestly feel like I stole from PL and Upscale Audio. Can’t stop tapping my feet and shaking my head. Bye for now and if one person listens to PRimaLuna after reading this thread my mission is complete. Peace,  Miles and Dizzy are on stage with Stevie Ray riding shotgun!
bluesy41

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bluesy41 OP
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@dpac996 

You're correct system synergy is so important. I purchased mine and I couldn't be happier. I have been to many live venues across this country and I wanted to bring that type of reproduction to my home. I fell in love years ago with the sound from a VTL-85 stereo amp, Vandersteen 3A Signatures and VTL's 2.5 preamplifier. Brand new all cost less than 10k and now for a sound equal to that you have to pay a ridiculous amount of money. So I tried ARC, Ayre, Linn and VTL to name and few and have auditioned many more and I just found the PrimaLuna Dialogue separates to just be amazing with my 20.7's and it's not even dialed in. I believe after about 50 hours of use and some minor tube rolling I will have something very special.

Cheers and keep the love of music alive!

bluesy41 OP
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@audioman58 
I have no ideal what you’re saying but ok I guess you mean well 😬 and yes I love my PrimaLuna’s. 
bluesy41 OP
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@soundermn 

What is the rest of your system comprised of?

bluesy41 OP
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@corelli 

I agree 100% with you. Give me the overachiever any day as well! 
bluesy41 OP
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@terryo - I got the KT150 and they are amazing. I’m up to about 20 hours on the Dialogue Premium Preamp and HP amp and will look to roll the tubes on the preamp after about 80 hrs of listening. Adding a second HP so I can take advantage of having mono-blocks. Not that I’m not digging the sound already but I know my 20.7’s would benefit from the separate power supply. 

Cheers
bluesy41 OP
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Question I was thinking about changing out the 6 12AU7 tubes in my Dialogue Premium Preamp with the Brimar tubes and replacing the rectifier tube with the Phillips. Should I also replace the set of 12AU7’s in the Dialogue HP amps? 


bluesy41 OP
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@jetter 

That's the beauty of PrimaLuna components. They want you to roll tubes and create the perfect sound for system and listening preference.

bluesy41 OP
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@1graber2 

I spoke with Jared yesterday and we decided I should go with the Brimar 12AU7 and the Phillips 5R4GYS Rectifiers. I'm no different then the rest of you and truly love my music and although its sounds great now I can't wait for them to arrive.

bluesy41 OP
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@1graber2 

Right!

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@jetter 


I'm not meddling into non warranty land bro, I'm just going with tubes that fit my system better and my taste. Didn't mean to mislead anyone with any other modifications. That's not me I buy a product because I like and believe in it, but based on my listening preference I purchased some Mullard and Brimar tubes.

Cheers

bluesy41 OP
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Still waiting on tubes to arrive. I ended up changing my order at the last minutes and going with the Mullard’s and the Phillips rectifier. I’m honestly being greedy because each day the PL’s continue to impress me more and more. I know the Mullard’s and Phillips will be a great improvement and eliminate the mid and high brightness but damn last night I was listening to Hugh Masekela live and nearly cried. The sound was amazing. I have a dedicated listening room and I kept having to turn the lights on just to see if I was dreaming. My music listening enjoyment  is at an all time high. Don’t be fooled by the marketing of high cost gear, we can truly have our cake and eat it to. I personally have kissed a lot of electronic toads but I’m happy to have found my Cinderella in the form of PrimaLuna.

Cheers 
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@aolmrd1241 

It's truly awesome! I can't believe how much time I've spent listening to music since I switched out my components. I've probably gained 3-5lbs since bringing the PL's into my home.LOL!

I installed the Mullard's and Phillips yesterday and I immediately could tell the difference in detail and texture. Bass is not deeper but more impactful and articulate. Can't wait for the second PL Dialogue Premium HP amp to arrive.

Cheers

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