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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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How many active speakers have you auditioned in your own space?

No one in this thread has claimed that you can't get a great system with either passive or active. Given the SAME budget you will get better performance from an active setup. 

Really?
At some lower budget level a passive can be cheaper and better.

@thyname I noticed your system photos seem to show no vinyl source??

 

 

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And I like their philisophy ... keep the sound digital until the very end where it feeds the loudspeaker,

kinda doesn’t work for tape of LP then…

… no one could answer except the video guy in the back said he could see the 16k hz audio tone on his monitor. It just showed even in a room full of people who made their living with their ears adults typically can't hear 16khz.

Thank god for the measurement.

Isn't the bulk of amp/driver "match" really about coordinating [the same] dynamic range of each section of a complete system?    I mean an active system cannot be considered high end if it clips its HF amp on the tweeter before the LF amp clips on its LF driver.  This is the most basic of requirements, yes?  The same rules apply to a full multi way active PA system, yes?

If we assume that the HF component is riding on top of the LF swells then the HF always clips before the LF in a passive system.

Most tweeter in a box behind a crossover are more sensitive than the woofers and need to be padded down ~10dB, which further points to the HF needing very little power.

It would take some skill to design an active system which clips the HF before the LF. Maybe using a 1W SET on some inefficient tweeters, and a kilowatt amp on the woofers could get one close… But I sort of doubt it. It would take a lot of work.

That or play with the single sub near-field. Not sure why this came to mind, but someone asked what the best sound they could get for a $1000 was. I told them $500 headphones and near field sub for the emotional impact.

Or aa Butt Shaker(TM).

… Paradigm for instance has Canada pumping in lots of money because they are partnered with the government for acoustic research giving Paradigm an unfair advantage against other speaker manufactures. 

The Canadian is not running a “fairness in competition” for speaker manufacturers… and they can do what they want.

They would not (and should not) disadvantage themselves.