Power cords or power conditioner

Saving a poor soul one at a time 🙄

Why not both, power (distributor and cables) and room treatments. And honestly implementing room treatment is relatively inexpensive in the grand scheme of things.It just needs a lot of work. For me, I gotten everything I could possibly need, goods and advice, from GIK Acoustics. And of course, speaker placement, toe in, distance from listening position, etc. which are of course …. Free. Just some work.

From my own experience with real people, those who proclaim power cords and conditioners make zero difference, and room is all that matters, typically have zero room treatments in their rooms. They just love to bash cables. As they say, don’t pay attention to the preaching of a naked priest. Or something like that.

OK. Fair. Nothing you said is essentially terribly wrong. Show me your room & your room treatments and I will eat crow. You can PM me or post a picture of your system here under “systems”.

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But I am more of a cable denier

The good thing , again, is admit this 😂

And for some reason, you folks believe that people who spend $1,000+ on a power cord do not take care of their room and the room treatments and speakers positioning 🤦‍♂️🙄

You quoted me on this:

From my own experience with real people, those who proclaim power cords and conditioners make zero difference, and room is all that matters, typically have zero room treatments in their rooms. They just love to bash cables. As they say, don’t pay attention to the preaching of a naked priest. Or something like that.

 

No matter the vendor they always say that their products cannot be improved on. 

Correct. Almost always. Yet, if you encounter them in audio shows, various in-house demonstrations, at dealers, etc. etc.... you will never find them hooked up to $2 junk power cords, or colored (also junk) interconnects, or lamp cords for speakers.

and are not as fortunate as you to have a dedicated room.

What makes you think I have a dedicated room?

did upgrade/change some of the front end electronics to make them more visually appealing to the SO

Completely valid science applied mathematically 😉

I am not sure what "not shire" means. Did you mean "not sure if you have used tube traps"?

I have the following GIK panels (4" on the front wall and 6" on the back wall): 

They are a combination absorber / diffuser / bass trap. They can be turned around too, to only get absorption and no diffusion. But I do strictly use absorbers only (4" 242s) on the side walls and my ceiling. Maybe time to experiment moving things around

@labpro :

I would start with diffusion across the soundstage, back wall behind the listening position and at the fist reflection points on the side walls and ceiling

Interesting. You are doing Diffusors (not absorbers) on the side walls (first reflection points)?

I recommend you either place the system in a better room or make the room you have acoustically neutral. 

@pcrhkr : great advice! Please post a picture of your system here under “Systems”. I am eager to learn from you. I am guessing you have your own dedicated audio room, with a lot of acoustic panels? I would love to see what you have accomplished with your room. Thank you

@holmz : https://systems.audiogon.com

Love to see your highly acoustic optimized specifically built scientifically optimized room too. Happy I could help somehow by posting a link. All ears. I love science 

It took a while, but using google “systems audiogon thyname” I found a room, that does not look like what my haus-boss would abide as a multifunction room.

A picture of my room is right here on my profile when I post 😂. It’s a general purpose basement, a portion of it housing my audio system. It’s all how far one is willing to go on this hobby. If one is not allowed by the SO, or the proverbial “…. wearing the pants…”, then I feel sorry about you.

Speaking of which, this has to be lamest excuse one has in this hobby. It’s used so often, even by some with No SO whatsoever 🤦‍♂️

I’ll agree that if you buy one make sure you can return it.

OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG!!! Thank you so much for your purchase approval! 🙄. Nobody should buy anything without your blessing 🤦‍♂️🙄