Power Conditioners


Not sure if I placed it in the correct topic but here goes. I was just wondering how power conditioners work, as I want to buy one. There are conditioners with only filtered inputs and conditioners with some filtered inputs and some unfiltered. I believe the unfiltered ones are for analogue devices. But why should these go into the unfiltered part? If I buy a power conditioner for example with only filtered inputs, will I not be able to put my class A amp in? Or will it have a negative effect?
sjeesjie

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@erik_squires great reading man! Thank for sharing that! @mattmiller thats not my experience, I used to have one and I loved the black background and the greater detail and dynamics.
@erik_squires still I am wondering why the power conditioners of for example Vincent or Dynavox have different input types (filtered vs unfiltered). Is that because of the 2 zone topology in your example?
So if wall warts go into the dirty zone, does it also mean the DAC and the record player? Only amp and CD player have grounded power cables so they go into the clean zone?
Sooo all devices go into the conditioner and the conditioner itself goes into the surge protector? 
I was thinking of doing this: having two plug outlets with each having a conditioner with built in surge protector. One will be the dirty zone, as per @erik_squires example, the other the clean zone. The clean zone will handle the amplifier, the dirty zone will handle the rest (DAC with wallwart, CD player with grounded cable, record player with wallwart, streamer without grounded cable).
Thanks for your post @oldhvymec but I have a hard time understanding what you mean to say :-D

What I try to accomplish with my system is better SQ, less noise. I’ve had a filter before and it helped a lot. Now I want to buy a new one and I want to set it up as correctly as I can. So everything in the correct group and all devices in phase. With the regular power cables it’s easy to put it in phase but the wallwarts and power cables without grounding it’s hard.
@millercarbon what do you mean to say? Do you have a big ‘ol power conditioner or not?

That sounds really nice @rixthetrick do you care to share what devices it were? I believe Isotek or Isol-8 does something like that, no?
Maybe I don’t understand how a surge protector works then.. I thought it would only protect the devices that are plugged into the surge protector?
One more question about these power filters/conditioners (is there a difference at all??). 
They have these markings to put everything in phase. That's wonderful, but how can I put a wall wart in phase? Is there any method to know which of the connectors is live and which is neutral?
You keep saying "in phase" do you mean on the same rail at the main

Google it my friend... maybe it’s different in America? 

I’ll tell you how noisy my power is.

I switch on / off my lights? I hear a blow in my speakers. My fridge regularly unloads a small current on the ground wire. Result? A plop in the speakers. Even when my neighbour switched on or off his light I hear a blow in the speakers! Unfortunately there is no power filter that I know of that can handle these spikes.

Whenever I use a power filter however, that bit of static noise that you hear all the time through the speakers is gone. It’s pitch black. And that is something worth buying a power filter for already if you ask me.
I was wondering if there are power conditioners that can solve the spikes you hear over the speakers when you switch on or off the lights?
I wonder if it’s measurable at all to measure the noise inside the device (amp or whatever). All everyone is talking about is the noice from the main outlet. That’s not even interesting as the amp itself does filtering itself too.