Power Conditioners


Not sure if I placed it in the correct topic but here goes. I was just wondering how power conditioners work, as I want to buy one. There are conditioners with only filtered inputs and conditioners with some filtered inputs and some unfiltered. I believe the unfiltered ones are for analogue devices. But why should these go into the unfiltered part? If I buy a power conditioner for example with only filtered inputs, will I not be able to put my class A amp in? Or will it have a negative effect?
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There are two outlets on a normal 15 amp outlet. Use one for the conditioner, maintainer, suppressor and one for just a surge suppressor. Not one into the other. Same outlet (circuit) different plug.

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Here is something, that amazed me. I use Tripplite 2400s. I use a few different brands of gear. ALL my Mac gear works perfect, no problem plugging into the conditioner. I have Parasound Zpre3, It doesn’t like the conditioner, It looses, a LOT of the dynamics, top and bottom. Plug the thing direct into the wall, sounds wonderful. I use just a surge protector on it, sounds perfect...

I think the better the Power Supply in the gear, the better they respond to a conditioner. Not uncommon at all to scrimp, there, even in high dollar equipment. I’ve just NEVER seen it in Mac, 25 or so pieces, no problems.
The Parasound, older Marantz, One pair of Carys (6 pacs) don’t sound as good. Cary V12R, it works perfect on a conditioner. Again different Power Supplies, even within the same or close to the same manufacture Cary/AES.
The two respond differently, to conditioners, ones fine ones not..

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For the sake of ground loop issues, all on he same plug, 2 plug outlets, one for the conditioner, one for the surge protector.

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First thing, do you have any issues with your system? I forgot to ask.

Second get a multi meter, if you don't have one, STOP.. Don't get hurt, get some help.
DO NOT work on hot circuits, no multi-meter, NO WORK!!! i
If you do know what your doing, are comfortable, and NOT COLOR blind, (I ran into that to :-) )

White = neutral
Black = hot
Green = ground
Bare = ground
red = aux/hot/jumper/assignable

Phase? reverse the black and the white, when there is no ground?
or is it direction on the cable?

These are questions for you, don’t mix them up, yes direction matters.
Cables, normally work better in one position or direction, unless they are already set up that way. Male, female as an example.

OR Don’t use a wall wart, and use a good SURGE suppressor and a maintainer. It’s not a SQ issue FIRST for me, It’s a safety first, protection second. BUT SQ won’t suffer, with good Equipment and protection.
Let it settle for a while, rout your cables correctly...Get them off the floor.
It’s your equipment, I protect my expensive equipment, plane and simple.

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So you do have a noise issue? Is that correct, noise issues that you can hear? Usually ground loops and routing. I've heard some NOISY systems behind lazy cable routing.  A wall wart won't make noise go away when it's a routing issue. Though I've seen a LOT of folks try.. LOL

We never had lightning strikes closer than 50 miles from my home, either until a month ago and lightning stuck a house two block away. Lightning strikes on the mountain, not uncommon. That same round caused some serious brown outs, black outs, and then surges, coming back on line.

It’s your equipment, me, it’s safety first, I protect equipment by maintaining the voltage, 120 on the button. I’ve never had a SQ issue, noise issue, or loosing expensive equipment because a LACK of protection. I just don’t do it. There is NO reason to lose anything..
I’m a mechanic, I stay out of trouble, NOT get out of trouble...

You keep saying "in phase" do you mean on the same rail at the main, your loosing me here. ALL on the same 120 vac rail? There are two 120s and 240 vac between the two. 240 vac single phase.

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