Power conditioner/protection question


Hello,

I am assembling a budget system and I need an advice what power line protection or conditioner devices have to be included. The system is initially worth not more than $2000 of mostly used gear. The SS integrated amp (Classe CAP80, 100 wpc) will be the most power-consuming device in it. I live in a small town with (I believe) not many power spikes and irregularities but frequent thunderstorms and occasional power outages. I am not going to use the power protector for cables, phones etc.

Reading threads here I realized that spike protection is essential and the filtration of EMI/RFI noise is highly desired. So now I’m considering a PS Audio Duet surge/spike protector and power conditioner; few posters here said it improved sound quality which is an additional plus.

However, the Duet is around $200 (new). Would it be an overkill to have it for a $2000 system? Or should I buy something cheaper such as some Monster Cable products such as HTS 1000 Mkii surge/power conditioner? Or a Panamax MIP20-MAX Image Pro 20 amp Power Conditioner/ Surge Protector, here on sale for $65? Do I need a power conditioner at all? If not, will something like Furman PL-8II ($109) which is a filter and spike protection is enough?

Thanks for the help.
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Showing 3 responses by blindjim

Synergy between conditioners and your gear is a reality. They also will affect the sound. you can compensate for this some by chosing the right power cord.

However, my statements are about direct comparisons between a few different conditioners. some limit bandwidth, some current, or so they say. None of my gear has failed due to current limitations imposed by a passive filter/conditioner. Some do 'sound' better than others, depending on your ears and gear.

never having had something like a Duet, and for $200 new? I'd say go for it. PSA has a trial period... like it? Keep it. Simple.

The power cord attahced to a conditioner sure makes all the diff too. Right out of the box though, things will sound good... with PSA products though, even they need to run in a few hundred hours first. The ckt breakers worked on mine for me... saving my gear from lesser and greater current spikes. So I can atest to that aspect first hand.

When a failure to one or both, in my case did happen... PSA SHIPPED ME OUT TWO NEW ONES POST HASTE... AND PRIOR TO THE RECEIPT OF MY OWN FAULTY ONES.

more $$$ will do you better in many areas power conds affect. A Duet however should be the ticket for your systems needs though. A Quintet just has more outlets. But at that price, I'm looking towards a Running Springs Haley.

congrats!

I found using a pair of Duets a better way to go. One for front end, and one for power. Past that a Halley for power is yet a better path.

Having one however is better than having nothing. trying out different PCs for it will really help too.

What it is placed upon does matter some as well. Check it out.
Here’s what I mean…

No, a rack isn’t really needed. The power filters I own, 2 Duets, 1 UPC 200, and 1 RSA haley, all respond to the surface material (s) placed under them… in other words, isolation and damping. I heard a difference in the sound from just laying them onto the carpeting, placing a piece of wood underneath them, using phone books, magazines, hardback books, ceramic tiles, hard surfaces in conjunction with various iso noes such as vibrapods, Bright Star nodes, differing wood footers, etc. Playing with these simple near free items mix, can make changes you may well wish introduced into your system…. It’s not only the cord which matters.

As I have a few different types of these gizmos, I use them differently as well. It allows me to provide greater separation of components and in conjunction with the aforementioned tweaks, and power cords, more fine tunning to the components that are attached to each filter. .

For ex. I use the Haley for the amps, two tubed, one SS, a DAC, and a DVD player. On the haley I have an Elrod Sig III pc. I use a Python VX on one Duet which feeds several rotating digital pieces. The UPC 200 takes care of the personal confuser gear… printer, desktops, cable modem, router, phone.. etc. in combination with a couple power strips of course. The last Duet feeds the Br system.

One Duet is on a component stand’s shelf, the BR is on the carpeting, atop a hard backed book. The haley sits on Brighht star large iso nodes which are on a piece of hard wood, the UPC is on some plywood resting right on top of the carpeting under my desk. I kick it about once a day at least. The UPC also serves as supply to my active SR ic’s and speaker wires.

Seperating components like this wasn’t the initial plan going in… it came about as the direct result of $$$ or lack there of, and my notion passive filtration would less affect the sound than would active conditioning. As it happens, I do enjoy the fact each unit is running off a dedicated ckt as well. Each has a pc more appropriate IMO to the need it serves too. So it’s a more custom tailored approach to suit specific needs on accidental intention..

Each of the filters has supplied at some point amps, preamps, front ends, etc. What is in place wherever now, is IMO the best place for it/them…. So far.

Next up for me in the power feed area is likely better outlets. Mine are simple hospital grade 20A.