power conditioner


How important is power conditioner for musical system . Does it really  improve sound quality if the outlet AC power is adequate enough?
farzad

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"..they all have warts I cannot live with."

Hi stringreen,

The Ayre L-5xe is not one of the AC Enhancers I was referring to.

Best to you stringreen,
Dave
Hi farzad,

Today’s best AC enhancement units aren’t "power conditioners" as we knew them even 5 years ago. Regeneration, Electro-magnetic cells, Graphene, etc. have obsoleted the notion of "taking something away", usually associated with power conditioners as they lower the noise floor based on passive filtering and choking of extraneous noise from the AC signal.

The current TOTL AC enhancement products virtually recreate and/or transform the AC power. A few even audibly increase dynamic headroom over what is possible from the raw AC line.

The right models will positively improve the sound of a good system in every way with no downside except the high cost.

Best to you farzad,
Dave

"How important is power conditioner for musical system"

Key word here is "musical".

Best to you czarivey,
Dave
"none of my favorite high end stores that I do business with use power conditioners in their showrooms..."

Why? Are you convinced that they have honestly auditioned the latest AC Enhancers or are they summarily acting in accordance with their experiences with passive filtering products of years past?  Can they tell you which ones they recently auditioned?

Best to you jl35,
Dave
That is a very valid reason maplegrovemusic. 

Fair enough jl35. Thanks for the reply.

Best to you both,
Dave
Hi toolbox149,

If your power conditioner has transformers inside, they create/transmit vibration therefore should not be stacked above or below a component that is sensitive to it, which is every component I can think of.

Best to you toolbox149,
Dave

Hi toolbox149,

Just unplug the conditioner's power cord at the receptacle if you are that worried about lightning. It is my experience that components need (often a lot of) time to warm up in order to sound their best, so restore power at least a half hour before doing any critical listening.

Best to you toolbox149,
Dave
oleschool: "jmho this 2k plus range is where the real changes in conditiong etc are taking place upwards to 4k for regenerative power .."

Yahtzee!

I started my AC enhancement trials after the installation of dedicated 30 amp power lines with a Furman IT-Reference 20i ($3500), their TOTL conditioner then and now. Very well-built unit, but impact on sound was minimal, er, I mean "modest". I compared it to my ancient Chang Lightspeed CLS-6600ISO conditioner and the Chang was better, but still "modest". Sold the Furman and moved to a SR Powercell 10 Mk II and the improvement was like in the Wizard of Oz when it changes from B&W to color. Sold that one off in a period of financial hardship and went back to the Chang. The magic was gone but I adjusted over time (ie didn’t listen much and got hooked on vintage systems for a while). Years passed. Recently bought a pre-owned Powercell 10 UEF/FEQ ($2500-$3K for a pristine used unit including a TOTL SR power cord and FEQ unit) and the improvement in sound is transformational.

I would like to know if any of the owners of budget passive power conditioners have tried a reputable-brand, equivalent-cost power cord on their digital source instead of their current/previous power conditioner? If so, what power cord and what were your impressions of the relative effect of each on the sound of your system?

Best to all,
Dave
Hi henricai,

Have you considered the Synergistic Research Powercell 12 UEF? More impact than a toroidal transformer and no filters to choke current. Comes with its own Graphene power cord and UEF receptacle.

Dave
Hi oleschool,

Your DIY power generator is effectively eliminating the usual problems with dirty AC from the grid. Excellent!

The only thing left to address now, if you are inclined to do so, is the RF/EMI entering the wiring from the power source to the receptacle and possibly your system cabling.  I just received two different versions of RF/EMI cloth from Amazon, one inexpensive and the other a bit more expensive, to experiment with shielding my power cords, ICs, and speaker cables, all post-power enhancement, from RF/EMI.

I will let you know how it comes out if you are interested.

Best to you oleschool,
Dave