Porter Ports or Cabledyne Cryo Hubbell 5362


Just as I was about to purchase 3 Porter Ports yesterday, a friend of mine drew my attention to a new offering on the market, cryoed HBL 5362 by Cabledyne (www.cabledyne.com). Price wise there is considerable difference (as it appears to me): Porter Ports sell of $36 ea. + $12 shipping (for up to 3 units) against $25 each with free US shipping currently being offered by Cabledyne. My heart says Porter Port, but my mind -possibly biased by my friend - says Cabledyne.
Would greatly appreciate the advice from and personal experience/comparison from fellow audiogoners.
thank you in advance.
lall

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A shame theaudiotweak did not report back in detail on the single outlet HBL5361s. I've unfortunately noticed with my own dual outlets that one receptacle tends to sound a tiny bit better than the other. With 5361 you know you're getting the job done with just one outlet to choose. With duals it seems like one wire is connected fairly direct to one outlet while the other is reliant on the clippable tab to conduct to the outer
lall's ranking of these receptacles is a bit odd:
" My overall ranking based on the above tests are as follows:- 
1. Cabledyne Cryoed Hubbell 5362
2. Hubbell 8300 (non cryo) – old stock all copper version
3. Porter Ports
4. Legrand
5. FIM Gold 880"

lall visually verified that the Porter Port was identical to the Hubbell 8300H with the same copper backstrap. A bit shocking that the non cryo'd Hubbell beat the cryo'd one!

I've got a couple vintage stock Hubbell 5362s in my system and intend to get some vintage 8200Hs shortly (identical to 8300H except not a true 20 amp connector as the extra clip deleted.) I've got to up my boutique outlet game a bit as I have 8 dedicated lines, but other than a variety of Hubbells, just a lone Maestro outlet. I'd like to get the Cabledynes, but limited to 2 at $35 each plus $10 shipping ($80 for 2). Up from $25 per unit to $45 now; the price of fame.
lak,
have you messed with wall plates? I wonder at this development, but my 8 lines are actually housed in 4 dual duplex configurations. If cosmetics not an issue one wonders what the ambitious audio cheapskate might accomplish. I've also heard the GTX NCF is the cat's meow.

I've got some spec grade oddball hubbells in place that are unacceptable plus a gawd awful Cooper spec outlet from Lowes. 4 other slots are NOS HBL5362s from ebay on the under $10 delivered cheap. One Maestro which is the best.

I'm getting with Dave of P.I. Audio group who has polished cryo'd Pass&Seymour 5362As for $35 each (unpolished $25, and cryo'd P&S 5362 lower grade ones for only $10 each). He is user dBe over at audiocircle and responds to pms. This outlet might be superior to the Maestro and the new bargain champ.

Will get 1-2 of these P&S and try them out. I used to use a variety of power cords and switching in and out of my system was tedious. Hopefully I'll eventually have enough good receptacles in play to make some comments. Once installed its pretty easy to try them out, but I may rue swapping them in and out with the 10 guage wire likely to cause headaches.
Haha the poor Maestro will be under some scrutiny.

I have two gang boxes so I’m lucky I can’t use 104-Ds. But Fim 308-2 is two gang (dual duplex) for $65 (aluminum). Oyaide has something like the 104-D in the WPC-Z2 for two gang and only $480 each.

I have two gang covers so that is TP82 instead of TP8. other letters like I stands for Ivory and CP for contractor pack. TP8ICP is ivory, contractor pack (10). "
  • Available in "TP" series, extra 3/16 inch width and height than Standard size plates; and "TPJ" series, extra 3/16 inch width and height than Junior-Jumbo size plates."
@lak,
The TP is a junior jumbo size, see any issues with TPJ which is full on jumbo and even bigger? What about stainless steel?(see below discussion.)

After double taking on $480 for an outlet cover (FFS I would need 8 at nearly $4000, gad zooks). It may be time for DIY outlet covers. The late "Winston Ma discovered that the outlet cover makes an important contribution to the performance of his outlets. He evaluated a number of options, with interesting results. The cheap plastic covers used in residential construction are, as you might have guessed, sounded the worst. More rigid covers sounded better, especially those made from non-magnetic stainless steel. He also learned that installing shielding and damping material inside the cover plate paid huge dividends."

I’m thinking the TPJ style might be a good vehicle for tweeking (putty pads for outlet boxes, aluminum tape, copper foil, all on hand.) Also an option, Stainless steel plates much like the FIM 308 (stainless steel is nonmagnetic) and one then could provide vibration tuning/damping on the backside (essentially what the FIM 308 does). Fleabay has my double gang ones for $5 each delivered or 8 for $30. Any stainless steel will do as its all non-magnetic. $30 and supplies on hand sounds a lot better than $4000, haha.

Cast covers might offer more rigidity and they look cool:

http://www.wallplatesonline.com/p/95334-Cortina-Stone-2-Duplex-Outlet.aspx?gclid=Cj0KEQjw5YfHBRDzjNn...

Stone wall plates above with some foil and damping on the back look interesting.

https://www.amazon.com/Amerelle-94DBB-Continental-Wallplate-Brushed/dp/B00FWWE2OG?th=1

Cast brass might be rigid enough

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Amerelle-94DDN-Continental-Satin-Nickel-Cast-Double-Duplex-Wallplate/4743...

Cast Nickel might work

Haha, Cast iron available, but that would be magnetic. I'm going to have to check out some examples at the local stores.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-4-Stainless-Steel-2-gang-duplex-wall-plate-P-S-SS82-302-Free-Shipping...

Not all stainless steel is non-magnetic the SS82 is non-magnetic. Leaning towards these as starting point and only $12 delivered for 4 (I only need 4, not 8). These can then be damped. Sadly wood insert ones not available for 2 gang, just 1 gang. I've got some dynamat like material from car audio that I may try.

Ordered 2 of the polished cryo'd P&S from Dave:
2 ea P&S 5362A(P) + shipping = $70.00