Point to point wiring.

Pbb if you get your head Cryo'd I want to be there to document it.

I'll wager that just before total freeze up you will realize that chicken tasted better when you were young because they were all free range then as opposed to living in ten inch square wire cages and eating their own crap.

Anyway you need not fear being taken in by the "cable hoax," because you decided long ago that these forums were a place to spend your aggressive tendencies and fight rather than spend $100.00 for a used interconnect and improve your own system.

I would say that the last laugh is on you because you never get improvement in music playback, but I now realize after reading dozens of your comments you really don't care. You just want everyone else to be miserable too.

Pbb,

On the other hand, I heard some very reasonably priced systems that included what you would consider laughable wire that sounded amazingly good to me. (A system consisting of Naim electronics and Spendor speakers comes to mind, another that was all Rega is also remembered fondly

Not only do I agree economical systems can sound good, I am responsible for two guys in my audio group staying on target for their high end budget audio systems.

Eric had $2200.00 and Robert had $1400.00. Both systems required I assemble CD player, speakers, amplifier, preamp, cables (and on the $2200.00 rig), turntable, arm and cartridge.

Both these systems perform admirably and both came in on budget, thanks to Audiogon. I choose Vandersteen speakers, tube amps and preamps and Home Depot wire for both systems. There are topics on both these systems and I worked hard to make this right, including (in one case) driving 50 miles to pick up the Vandy's to avoid possibility of shipping damage.

Now just in case you think that I have made a 180 degree turn, this is not the case. Once a system reaches the point where all the components are approaching maximum performance level, then specialized cable, AC cords, NOS tubes, isolation feet and many of the other tweaks discussed here become valid.

Platinum spark plugs would be wasted in a Ford Pinto but they are a necessity in many German cars, including Porsche. So, does that mean that testing Platinum spark plugs in a Pinto and getting crappy results prove the part is worthless? No it does not.

If a system is pushed far enough ALL these tweaks matter. Audiogon is for music lovers and home theatre fans and there is room for many opinions. I help people every day with answers to problems that have nothing to do with the components I choose for my own system. I also respond to those who have gone the limit and want answers about equipment at the upper limit.

If you think making fun of ideas that didn't work in your system constitutes fun, then don't be surprised when I come along and challenge you.

Kkursula, I don't understand your comment. I take great offence if your referring to me as Texas millionaire in your reference to Pbb.

I think it would be better if inpepinnovations, Pbb, the Jesuits, and I all join together to give Ralph (Atma-Sphere) a hard time. He's the guy with the $27000.00 amps and a paid for home, I still have 20 years to go.

Guess I missed that joke.

Rush, I just arrived and caught up on this thread.

I suspect Steve is teasing us. Everyone knows Ralph and I have been friends for years, we just like to give each other a lot of sh*t and I think he was joining in.