Pls help me decide Pass Labs X250.8 or Luxman M900u


I want to upgrade my 2 channel audio.  I have a 7.2.4 Home Theater system I am in the process of upgrading. Recently I upgraded my old B&W N805 / HTM2 to the 803D4 / HT81D4 and relegated my N805’s to Surround duty (and they excel in this roll!)

I have been driving (due to age of system) with a Pass Labs X5, which I will keep for surrounds and center on HT , but I want to upgrade my 2 Channel Audio.  I currently am trying to decide between the PassLabs X250.8 and the  Luxman M900u.  As these B&W’s can dip down below 2ohms I want to make sure I buy an amp which will bring out the best in my system and handle these dips. I will also be buying a Tube Preamp with HT Bypass -(looking for a used VAC Signature Mk5 SE or the new Backert Rhumba Extreme 1.4)

 

Anyone with experience with either of these amps and B&W 800’s would be great to hear from.

Thx!

 

garynospamm

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Are there other amp's you think I should look at?  I understand the Pass XA's are warmer (but also with less dynamic bass).  I think the D4 series overall is less bright that the D3 series and I like the Top End sound already with my 803's from the X5, but I know it can get significantly better.

@yoyoyaya thank for the response , @audphile1  you make a very good point.

what specs do I need to look at to understand if the Backert Rhumba Extreme 1.4 would pair well with a Pass Labs X250.8 ?

https://backertlabs.com/tube-bias-adjusted-automatically/

https://backertlabs.com/more-goodies/

@audphile1

So, I found this on the Backert

Input impedance: 34,000Ω
Output impedance: Below 80Ω

On the Pass Labs X250.8 specs

Input Impedance (SE & BAL Kohms) 50/100

i would be using XLR’s to connect the pre to the amp

 

So thoughts? Input 100,000 on amp

output on Pre 80ohms so looks good?

I really appreciate all of the responses here!

I’ll update once I make my purchase and have the amp in my system. Will start to focus more on the Preamp now.

The Backert Rhumba Extreme really interests me- unless I can find a used VAC Signature MkII SE

@soix I have 803D4’s (not D3’s) but you are correct about the upper registers. I’d like as much imaging, 3dimensionality and life like presentation as possible. I find magic in the small details and how notes can hang in the air.

@audphile1 I would consider a Ref6 SE but (maybe because of my lack of knowledge) thought it would be best to buy a pre amp which has Home Theater Bypass as 60% of the time the system is used for that.

You can turn the Backert off for HT , also it’s much more affordable than the VAC. Have not found a store that had both so I can so listen side by side. 

@audphile1 what is the input on the Ref 6 labeled, as I have been looking at the back panels and only see Bal 1-4 and SE 1-4 inputs.

Thanks again for all your great info!