Please tutor me on some integrated amp basics.


I’ve recently purchased Magico A3 speakers and a VPI Classic 2 SE turntable with an Ortofon Black 2M moving magnet cartridge. I have a Marantz SA 8005 CD/SACD player to play the few (maybe a hundred or so) CD’s in my possession.
I’ve mostly vinyl albums and no streaming sources. I’m next going to upgrade my old amp/preamp purchased back in the late 70’s with a new, probably integrated, one and am starting to do some research.

Here’s where I need some tutoring. A lot has changed since the seventies with the advent of digital technology. As well as I need to learn more about amplification components in the high end of audio technology. I keep running across terms I don’t understand. I’ll give you a list and if someone would be kind enough to explain these basics I’d be obliged.

For instance I was reading about the Hegel H360 integrated amp that Magico’s Alon Wolf recommended for their A3’s. The review mentioned they were a Class A/B amp, another person commented Class A’s were better, and a third person said he didn’t care for Class D amps. What do these classes signify? 

A second question is about DACs. I generally understand their purpose of the DAC, converting a digital to an analog signal. However my only digital device, the Marantz SA 8005 already has a DAC, ostensibly of good quality. The turntable ’s Ortofon cartridge would not need to play through a DAC, I presume. Would I bypass the CD’s players DAC if I purchase the higher quality Hegel H360 integrated amp?. Or could I find an equivalent integrated amp without an integral DAC?

On the other side of the equation I understand the turntable’s cartridge cannot play through the Hegel without first going through a phono stage. My old Phase Linear 4000 preamp you just plugged the turntables RCA cables into the back of the preamp and you were done. What’s that about? Do they make equivalent integrated amps to the Hegel H360 with integrated phono stages already in place, so I can just plug my turntable in as I’ve been able to do before. The amps don’t seem to be well integrated at all if you have to add a pricey phono stage to make them work, and end up having an extra DAC. That’s just me whining.

Third question is what are monoblocks, how are they used, and what are their advantages to a system? They were used at one of my speaker auditions.

I figured out the answer to what amplifier damping was myself, so I’m sparing you that one, but what does the term impedance mean? I keep coming across that.

Thank goodness I don’t have to figure out the cabling nightmare yet. Thanks for any help.

Mike
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I believe that you had better get all  in one system like Lyngdorf, Micromegan, Devialet which include nice DAC , integrated and even room correction.

Then you can save lot of money for cable and system will look more simple.


If you do not mind used ones, there are several listings to save you money in the Audiogon.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis95j65-micromega-m-one-m100-stereo-integrated-amplifier-m-100-ma...

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis95iih-lyngdorf-audio-tdai-2170-integrated-amplifier-loaded-mint...


https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis955fi-devialet-120-stereo-integrated-amplifier-14485-solid-stat...


Nice thing to get used gear is that you will get less loss at resale after 2,3 years.

I believe that you will be happy with any one of above three linked items.


The first and second one does include room correction but the last one does not.

If I choose one, I will go for Micromega which have more bass control than Lyngdorf 2017.


If you insist new one, Lyngdorf 3400 appears to be good choice.



Mike

If you have no experience of high end audio cables, then I highly recommend Analysis Audio basic levels.

I have both Audio Note and Analysis Audio cables.

Basic(low level) Analysis Audio cables can match 90% of the performance of Audio Note Cables at 1/6 price.

Thomas
Mike

I forgot to disclose the characteristics of those cables.

Audio Note give detailed and transparent sound and I use them for speaker cables and interconnect between DAC and my integrated amplifiers.


Analysis Audio give neutral and balanced sound.

I use Analysis Audio cables for power cables and digital interconnect.

I also use some Synergistic Research power cable.


Since Magico A3 is detailed and on the bright side not like Harbeth,

I thinks basic cable of Analysis Audio will work well in your system.



Later you can try some expensive ones.

Cable swapping can be fun and also give headache to you.

I had done cable swapping for more than 10 years and I am fed up with it now.



Cables are dependent on system and personal taste.

There is no best cable in the world.

It is like women depending on personal taste.


Thomas
Mike

I had been happily using Analysis Plus power cables for the last 6 years.

I chose them after auditioning at my home 3 different brands loaned by Cable Company 6 years ago.

https://www.thecableco.com/cables.html

Maybe you can try their service after you get your speaker.



Last week I ordered Synergistic Blue power cables based upon 3-2 offer and 30 day’s return policy.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis95gf1-synergistic-research-uef-blue-power-cable-october-special...

I also ordered 150$ Blue fuse.



In the end I am very happy with both the fuse and the cables.

It turned out to give more focus and details with fast sound than already excellent Analysis Plus.

Thus I placed order of 3 more Blue power cables with high current version .

650$ each but one free for 2 order.



At this moment, I am enjoying Elvis Presley.

"Are you lonesome tonight?"

I had never found his voice so sweet through my audio system before.

Thomas

Mike

Cable company charge loan fee, but if you purchase more than loan fee then they do not charge it.

So after you select around 3 cables, you can loan them from Cable company

You can call them to get more detailed information.


Actually I can sell you two Analysis Plus power cables at 200$ each which I paid 400$ each 6 years ago.

It will work very well in your system with neutral, balanced sound and weighty bass.


If you are interested PM me.


Thomas