Please give me your 2 cents...budget 30-50k


I am building my second home theater/music room. My previous attempt was extreemly expensive (in excess of 100k) and I sold my house and the system prior to using. I am attempting to cover both music and theater without going crazy. I am concerned about buying used gear, maybe it's not a valid concern but it's mine.

I have other systems in the house family, master bedroom, home office. This system will be in my guest house/ personal space, billards, bar, music, sports, etc.

I am considering Aerial speakers (7b,8b, or 9) Revel, B&W, Sonus Faber, Vienna...

Amps and pre/pro???? Proceed, Krell, Parasound Halo sereis, ATI, others?

Front projector HD 2 Runco, Sharp 12000, Marantz, Dwinn??

I have a varity of dealers here in Scottsdale Az. I look forward to your input.
sabailey

Showing 6 responses by rsbeck

Stay away from Proceed. It was great gear, but the company is having
trouble servicing it. For your surround processor, get the Lexicon 12B.
For your amps, Levinson 436's. Get them used. I believe the warranty
is transferable. Speakers? B & W N802's. I'd buy those used, too. With
Levinson 436's, those N802's would sing, sing, sing.
I'm not crazy about B & W until you get to the N803 and especially the N802. I also think a lot of people buy B & W and then fail to provide the
amplification necessary to make them work properly. But, I was just throwing out suggestions -- there are plenty of other speakers that would work given that budget. I would strongly suggest Wilson Watt/Puppy7's. If you liked the Revel Salons, those are also fine speakers.
Speakers are the hardest things to recommend because they are all different and everyone hears them differently. I can recommend the
Levinson amps because I own and love them. I also own Proceed gear
and I can pass on that when I tried to get some repairs recently, it was a
hell of an ordeal.

Haven't heard the N801's, so can't comment. Another speaker I would
recommend is the Joseph Audio Pearl.
If you're going to go the cheaper surround processor route -- I would suggest the Anthem AVM20. Much less expensive than the Lexicon, and
you have to go up to something like the Lexicon to beat it -- for Home
Theatre. Now, take the savings and buy a two channel pre-amp and you
*will* get better two channel music performance and home theatre performance will also be great. But, i agree -- if you want a one box solution and if Home Theate is of equal or greater importance -- get something like the Lexicon MC12B.
That sounds like a nice system. Shouldn't be that hard to set it up.
Tuning it to the room is another story. Here's what I would do. I would
buy all of those components used. All of them appear regularly on
Audiogon and can be had for about 60% of MSRP. Take the savings and
hire an independant acoustics consultant to tune your system to the room. I would also make sure to install dedicated circuits to your system and do something about your AC. I would recommend Balanced Power Technologies BP-3.5 for your system. I doubt you'll find one used -- spring for a new one. It's the last one you'll ever buy.

IMO, Krell is definitely punchy, but can sound a little analytical.
If you have a warm system, pairing it with Krell might give you
all the punch for which you're looking, while also bringing your
system back towards neutral. IMO, Levinson amps a touch warmer
than Krell and without the "edge" that *can* make Krells sound
fatiguing in the wrong system. I've had both Krell FBP350 MCX's
and Levinson 436's in my system and the Levinsons stayed, but
I wouldn't hesitate to pair up the Krells in another system. Just
that for my system, the Levinsons were like baby bear's chair --
Just right. Excellent detail, solid bottom and top extension, detail
without fatigue, just a touch of warmth -- perfect -- brought
everything into balance. Personally, I would be hesitant to match
up Krell with B & W, but plenty of others do -- so take my opinion
with a grain of salt. I think the analytical B & W's sound good with
a slightly warm amp. I heard the N802 with a Plinius SA250 Mark IV
and that was a great combo -- the plinius added a little warmth to
the analytical B & W sound, while pumping enough class A juice to
make them sing. B & W need lots of juice, so -- IMO -- tube gear
is out. This is why I originally suggested Levinson 436's with the
N802's. The Lexicon is pretty neutral to my ear. In your price range,
I would encourage you to audition Watt/Puppy7's. Kharma is another
speaker youy might consider, and -- again -- Joseph Audio Pearls.