Pioneer Elite DV-09 as a Transport...


Just got this item at a low, low price in excellant shape and condition. A beautiful piece of engineering IMHO but bought it for cd playback only. Redbook is very good for a unit several years old but wanted to know if this 35 pound beast would make a fantastic transport? As solid as this player is can't believe that it wouldn't! Any comments would be appreciated.
Thank you,
John
analog1
I think people got the impression that they were amazing transports a few years ago when Dan Wright, Stan Warren, Ric Schultz, etc. were modding them as transports for various DACs. I believe those people modded them because they had a lot of potential (considering their sub $200 price), but mostly because they also played DVDs and the new DACs were 24/96 compatible.

At that time I remember Ric Schultz offering a modded Sony CDP and a modded Pioneer DVD player as transports. He recommended the CDP over the DVD for redbook. He said that all of the extra video circuitry in the DVD player interferred with the audio to some extent.

My DV-05 was a fine transport (cost $600?). It didn't do much wrong. However, used with the same DAC, my old Denon DCD2560 (originally $1500) had better bass, my old Studer A727 (originally $3000???)had better everything, and the EVS modded Sony CDP transport ($600-ish) bettered them all by quite a bit. Besides the obvious bass/treble comparisons, the better the transport, the better the resolution.

My DV-05 was probably as good a transport as most sub $500 CD players. I'd guess the DV-09 compares to players costing less than $700-$800. If you want most low/moderately priced players to be good transports, you need to have them modified. In some cases that probably holds true with the expensive players too. With few exceptions, you usually get what you pay for (although, in audioland, sometimes you pay for a lot more than you get).

All that being said, you can do a lot with any player if you experiment with isolation, digital cables, and interconnects. It's surpising how much they can change when you find a good match.
I'm curious about this, because I remember someone saying that the Pioneer DVD units would be superior transports, better than the PD-65, which I use and think is great. But here the opinion seems to be that they are so-so.
I used my DV-05 as a transport for awhile. Fortunately, it's one of those things where you won't know its limitations unless you compare it to something else. If you add the jitter reducer, you will probably notice an improvement. If you switch to a better CDP as transport or a dedicated transport, you will probably notice an improvement. If you hook it up with a good DAC, cable, vibration isolation, etc. and don't compare it to anything, it will probably sound pretty great (you will certainly notice an improvement compared to its internal DAC).

Ignorance is bliss in this case.
I have one too- for DVD's only though. It's not that great as a transport, HOWEVER, it got MUCH better when I fed the digital out from the DV-09 into a GW Labs DSP digital converter (reduces jitter; boosts signal); the GW Labs to Dac- there was NO comparison, it was a substantial improvement in my system. If you plan on keeping it as a transport, search out a GW Labs DSP; or a Monarchy DIP to complete the picture (keep in mind you'll need an extra digital cable).