phase correction for records?


I am probably asking this out of pure ignorance, but is it possible that some of my records were encoded in a different phase than others in my collections? I ask this because given the identical setup, some of my records have a very open sound stage while others seem very compressed. This variance occurs with records of the same production year and condition. I have compared the LPs to CD versions and found that certain LPs are far more open than their CD equivalents and vice-versa but have no other explanation.

My setup:

vpi Scout with TNT platter, Grado Sonata cartridge
Musical Fidelity X-LPS phono stage
Audio Aero Capitole 24/192 cd player
simaudio moon i3 integrated amp
mbl 121 speakers
mbl subwoofer
bybee power conditioner
various decent cables, only the tonearm cable being shielded

There's a lot I'd like to improve on in this setup and suggestions are welcome.
jennyjones

Showing 3 responses by dopogue

Well, Jenny, you gain nothing by switching only one speaker cable. This
should merely produce out-of-phase sonics with a "diffuse and
directionless quality," to quote what the guy says on an ancient Shure
test record. I can't account for what you're hearing by switching both speaker
cables. It should have an effect, yes -- assuming your speakers are polarity-
coherent -- but nothing as dramatic as what you're reporting.

When you say you picked out a record that didn't have any phase problems,
you should bear in mind that records were originally recorded in
"normal" (absolute, if everything is hooked up properly) polarity,
in "inverted" polarity, in mixed polarity, or in some combination of
the above. Engineers either didn't care or figured the listener wouldn't hear
the difference or wouldn't care either.

Some records were recorded with a vocalist, say, in different polarity from
everything else. So depending on how you reproduce it, you can bring the
vocalist out front, or push him/her back into the mix. This is a maddening,
complex subject. One of my audiobuddies simply refuses to play the game
(he can hear the difference but ignores it). Frankly, If I were you, I'd follow
his lead :-)
You can check to see if it's a phase (polarity) issue or not by playing one of your
problem records and then reversing the speaker cables* to BOTH speakers (at
the speaker end). See if you can hear a difference. This will also tell you
whether the speakers are polarity-coherent. Count your blessings if they're
not, because unless you want to go through the bother of constant speaker
cable switching -- and if you're really sensitive to the effect -- you'll have to
get a preamp with a polarity switch. I don't know of any integrateds that have
such a switch, but there may be some. Good luck, Dave.

* I assume you know to power down before doing this.
That's odd, Raul. I have a friend with those giant Souindlabs AND a preamp with a polarity switch and he disabled the switch because he was never able to hear the slightest difference with it in either position.