Patricia Barber and Stereophile


Has anyone listen to PB's new CD? I just purchased it, upon rave reviews. I have not owned any of her other cd's, but soon will. The recording sounds great in regards to timbre and detail. It really captures the late night club sound. And, the bass is deep!!!!! Oh, of course the music is wonderful. Although, this is not the reason for my post. My concern is that the mix is really problematic. The drum kit is at least 10 to 12 feet wide and the bass player at times sounds like he is sitting on the drummers lap. The perspective is equal to standing 3 feet in front of a drummer. At times I feel that I am on stage. In reading the review in "Stereophile" there was no mention of this strange mix. This is not the first time I have encountered obvious "objective" problems with their music review. One of their recent reviews of a new funk band, I forget their name but it is the one with the cover including a dollar bill theme, gave it 5 stars in sound. Well, a friend of mine brought it over and I listened to it. IMO the low end was as muddy as the Colorodo River in the spring. As well as the over all sound was somewhat fuzzy. Now, I don't listen to all of their reviews and honestly I only catch the few that I like, however, their credibility has been compromised. Again, I'm not talking about the subjective matters of liking the music. I talking about the overall sound quality of the recordings. Has anybody listen to these cd's, what is you perspective and how well do you feel "Stereophile" does with their music reviews? Again, overall I love the new PB cd, it just the unnaturual soundstage I am talking about.
ramstl

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I completely agree, they blew this review in regards to your complaint. I have had great success following there R2D4 discs but this one and a few others got away. I was listening to the new Holly Cole last night for the first time, on one piece the drum was in the upper right hand corner of my room. My system is very good and most recordings are about 3' above the floor, not this one. It really makes me mad when they screw up a great sound. Maybe mid-fi has it's rewards, You can't complain with a good Best Buy system! TRY CAFE BLUE!!! The gold disk is far better than the aluminum, The vinyl is even better yet!
Hey Subaruguru, I believe Companion was recorded with one drumer and a seperate percussionist. Both Eric Montzka, drums and percussion; and Rubin P. Alvarez, percussion are credited. I know the last two times I saw Patricia she had both so you may be hearing what is there, two players. Also did you have the same issue as Ramsteel on the base. If so, wich track? I have not noticed it as a problem.
Avnut, are you refering to "Blackbird" on Nightclub? I have a very solid, deep round note untill about 25 seconds into the track at wich point it drops lower. The first pluck is not as solid as the next few but is still completely defined and remains round. My system looses nothing with the Sereophile test disk to 30Hz, losses maybe 7-10 db at 25Hz and is not really not audible at 20Hz under normal listening levels, but you can still feel it. It may well be my ears or something but the base I reproduce is extremely solid to 30Hz. You might try playing with your speakers or room some and see if you can focus the base better. How far into your room are your speakers?
And one more thought. The base note is located just left of the piano note on my system. The two are almost in the same space, imposed over eachother, but not quite. Are you resolving this or are they one location? This may be the murkieness.
I agree Ramstl, the piano is wrong. That seems to be a common problem with alot of recordings. The old 20 foot keyboard, I'd like to see her play that!