Passive Stage preamp vs Active Stage Preamp


As you all probably know lots of integrated amp designs (solid state) exersise the passive preamp part design which are basicly either transformer or a high quality potentiometer and simple input circuitry.
Many of us know that most of the CD players have a sufficient enough output voltage to feed the power amp (from 1V upto 3V) Same thing with DACs. Analogue phonos are able to produce the same kind of outputs.
The input sensitivity of power amp <=500mV
For somehow I've been experimenting with loaned WADIA No 15 DAC with variable output that has just a passive potentiometer and connected a variable output directly to my Bryston 3b-st. The result was deeper soundstage and details vs. setup through Bryston 11b preamp. The only drawback was that the volume range is much smaller than with preamp.
Can anyone summarize all advantages and disadvantages in using passive preamps vs. active?
Does it make a sence to try a passive stage preamp in my current solid state setup which is Theta Data II -> EAD DSP700 ->...
and analogue J.A. Michell GyroDec -> Delphini phono ->...
and ending with Bryston 3b-st?
Also if such exists, describe an importance of using active stage in tube setup.(Impedance matching?)
marakanetz

Showing 2 responses by sqjudge

It has been said many times that simpler is better. I believe that to be true in a lot of situations but is not always true in passive preamp. Albert talks about impedance matching being a problem in passives. It is a misnomer to talk about matching impedances because in a standard pre / power combination the output impedance of the preamp is many times smaller than the input impedance of the amp. It is the desirable low (~100 ohms) output impedance of the active preamp designs that allows the pre to drive the capacitance of interconnects without frequency degradation.
If one was to match the output impedance of the preamp to the input impedance of the poweramp you would only get half of the open circuit voltage output of the preamp into the amp. Tube amps typically have a higher input impedance that solid state but the designer is free to set the value to practically any value within reason. With the higher input impedance of a tube design it MAY be more sucessful with a passive pre. The biggest problem with a passive preamp is the higher output impedance (1000 ohms or greater) can react with the capacitance of long cables and dull the top end. I use a buffered passive design most of the time. It has a gain of one but an extremly low output impedance. I find that it can drive most power amps to full output and has the ability to drive a capacitive load with ease.

Several of the variable output CD players have a low output impedance. If they have enough voltage output to drive your amplifier to full output, I would believe you could do no better. I feel that the best sounding preamp is no preamp at all! If the system does not require the added gain or a lower output impedance, I do not feel the added switches and circuitry can improve the sound.

Chris
It has been shown that any realtime electrical signal (music)can be broken down into a series of sine waves of varying amplitude, frequency, and phase using the Fourier transform. Fourier analysis shows that music is composed of a linear sum of many sine waves. If an amplifier is linear and has sufficient bandwidth to pass all audio harmonics, then it will clip with a sine wave at the same peak to peak value as it does with music. The confusion can result when comparing the RMS value of a sine wave to the RMS value of music. This is usually not a problem in a CDP because the voltage output is usually specified as an RMS value at 1 KHz and at 0 db recording level. I agree that the 0 db output level must be greater than the input sensitivity of the amp because music is not recorded at 0 db on a disc.