Pass Labs xa - .5 amps


Has anyone compared the new Pass XA-30.5 stereo amp to the XA-60.5 mono amps? Interested to hear your impressions. I am considering one (or two) these for use with my ML Vantage speakers. Thanks.

Bob R.
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Silverline Sonata III. 93dB, 8 ohm nominal.

Silverline speakers are voiced with Pass Labs amplification

Wow. Those are nice. Very nice. What a great combination and the Silverline's look great in maple too. You really should put up a virtual system so we can all drool over it! ;-)
To be more exact, the result was a tonal imbalance with the highs louder than the bass and midbass, resulting in a tipped up or bright sound. The tube amps used were VAC MusicBloc 160 push pull and Atma-Sphere M-60 OTL.

Physically that might be explained by the higher output impedance of the tube amps. As output impedance nears that of the speaker then you will modulate the amount of voltage reaching the voice coil by the variation of the speaker impedance with frequency. For example, if the amp has an output impedance of 4 ohms then where the impedance of the speaker drops to 4 ohms you will get roughly half the voltage at the voice coil than you get at a point where the speaker impedance rises to 40 ohms (at 4 ohms half the voltage is dropped across the output of the amp while at 40 ohms only 10% is dropped). Obviously, if the speaker has been designed to be flat in frequency response when driven by an SS amp then you will hear a "tilted" presentation when played with a higher output impedance tube amp.

I am sure Tvad knows this very well - having directly experienced it and based on all his other knowledgeable posts here on Audiogon. So my comments are simply intended for those who are puzzled as to the cause of Tvad's observations...that's all.
In the example above we are talking like a maximum of 4 db difference this is not dissimilar from what some people might do with a tone control to adjust for room acoustics and preferences.

I found a good explanation here

Please note that if you have a speaker with a fairly flat frequency response (varies between 6 to 12 ohms) then differences in presentation from a low output impedance amp versus a higher output impedance amp will become considerably less.

It is not that a particular amp is right or wrong or a particular speaker is right or wrong => it is just important to consider the two (depending on your amp you might steer clear of certain speakers or depending on your speaker you might steer clear of certain amps. It is all about synergy.
fairly flat frequency response

Sorry my bad - I meant fairly flat impedance response.