Oyaide, Hubble, FIM etc, any consensus on flavors?


I’ve decided now to replace my hospital grade outlets with some more upscale outlets.

I’ve found thru the archives so far, there are several models in the Oyaide line up, and perhaps some of the others too, like Watt Gate, FIM, Isoclean, etc.

Something tells me they don't all do the same things

If someone could give me some inkling as to what each Oyaide model’s electronic flavor is, it would be greatly appreciated. Are there 3 or 4 models now out from Oyaide?

… but then I don’t know for sure as to which outlet from which co will give which results.

All lines are dedicated 20A

Main 2ch rig is all tubes.

Any insight on the varied flavors of the Oyaide, Isoclean, Hubble, FIM etc, would be immensely appreciated…. For at this time they all look alike to me except for their prices of course.

Naturally, I'd be inclined to spend more for the 2ch tubed rig, than I probably would on the HT side... but then, who knows?

so far the only insight I have is on the 3 Oyaide units:

1 Silver/Rhodium � Pure, strong, solid, uncolored reproduction � providing a very extended sound field.

2 Direct Gold - bold, sweet, luxurious, dynamic and lucid character

3 Gold/Palladium � the character of Gold with an added vibrancy and a cooler, fresher feeling Oyaide

...which I took from a resellers web page.

your thoughts?

Many thanks as always.
blindjim

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Chris

Thanks.

Drying out the sound is a definite possibility. I'm not sure how this anomoly occurs either. It's not attached to resolution & detail increases alone, of that I'm pretty sure.

What flavors did the two outlets you employed provide you with individually speaking?

if there's one way to dampen or isolate, there's another. Which is superior seems the issue.

$200 for a cover plate allows for a whole lot of trial and error attempts to surpass the carbon fiber ones.

Why can't you open up the PSA unit and install other outlets? too tight? outlets are the wrong size?

Seems a simple enough task provided the outlets match in depth and area dims.. and of course if not, keeping the origs and later on putting them. back in seems a valid enough idea.

Personally I don't feel it a big deal or some great wrong will transpire if a switch out is made, but there is always that, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" notion.
Lifeengineer

>>“Blindjim, how many outlets are you planning to replace?”<<

Good question.

With the current geography of the dedicated ckts, and equipment positioning, the plan is to split one Ded ckt. Into two receptacles vs the now ‘one’ duplex. On one side I’m thinking of going with something like a Porter, on the other side one of the oyaides.

The Porter will feed the HT proc and Butler 5ch amp I use as a 3 ch amp. The ‘which ever’ oyaide, will feed my Thor preamp… singularly… I suspect. Though that’s not cast in stone. The Butler amp could be fed from another spot.

Another high end outlet soon to be added, via a second Ded ckt. Will feed the Dodd monos… which are fed by an Elrod Sig III pc thru a RSA Haley, via a pair of Taipan Helix A’s.

The 3rd Ded ckt supplies the Stratos amp and some low end sources like cable gbox, NAS drive, and PC, The Stratos is directly fed out of the wall, and the sources get juice thru a PSA Duet via a Python VX.

This outlet can be of lesser price and influence yet still needs be a step up… and a porter was thought for this ckt.

Of course if there’s something not too pricey in between the Isoclean Fim, Oyiade, etc, and the Porter, that might be a fine fit for this ckt… as I could reroute the Butler to this outlet, and plug the Python vx into something else..

The 4th Ded ckt is across the room feeding the office eq. Printer, copier, TV, Mon, etc. I’ve no designs on exchanging that one at all.


>>“Some who are into the oyaides end up with a certain one that fits their personal likeness and others say go straight for the R1.”<<

R-1 ? What’s that one like?

>>”You may want to check out tesla,porter ports,and the new Maestro.Depends on what exactly you are trying to acomplish with each new addition as Rja pointed out for a balancing act.”<<

I agree. I looked today online at the SR site but found no duplex recp’s, only conditioners.

Maestro? Never heard of that one till now.

I suppose my aim is to gain still more palpability, presence, or ‘they are here’ than what I’m already getting without deducting from the current playlist entries. Some more blackness in the back drop should aid me there, naturally, and many of these choices seem to ascribe to that point.

I’d not wish to introduce anything which would harden any portion of the bandwidth or over emphasize leading edges or attacks.

More life OR NATURALNESS, perhaps… and a little closer to the music itself though without suspicion of listning fatigue. Also, I could stand to gain some greater depth of stage, and my preff would be to achieve a bit more SET quality without slowing things down appreciably as I do enjoy a fair amount of complicated large ensemble music. Big bands, jazz & blues.

My system IMO ALREADY gives me that Wow! Ooohh, now that’s really nice! Sort of presentation, but seldom is it that “Oh my God!” sort of thing except on some vocal recordings.

Personally I feel only an amp and/or speaker exchange can or will do that for me, but if I can climb a bit closer to it, that’ll do.

I think a combo of something more resolute and lively for the amps, and something sweeter for the preamp ought to suffice… though without adding untoward artifacts or over enhancing attacks.

This is why I’ve set to asking about what outlet sounds like or does what for a device attached to it.

Is the So & so x very smooth and extended; is the So & so Y very dynamic and quick; is the So & so Z highly resolute and exceedingly transparent? Those are the sentiments I felt I needed to make a good choice, and the thrust of this mini inquisition.

Chuck

Thanks much. That's also quite understandable if those are the guidelines for your systems development.

I find now and then however that some slight or minor alteration or enhancement/attenuation of a thing, via cabling or isolating, or tube rolling, to augment it's performance or simply to bring it into my own preffs range to a greater capacity by some minor tweaking is more desireable to me than to get back on the audio treadmill and seek out another set of speakers, amps, source, etc.

Also there is the component of increase. Overall increase or merely a partial one can be obliged in the same manner as I’ve just described. Perhaps one can call it allowing a thing to be at it’s best. Perform without any restrictions, or reducing it’s most glaring trait.

Naturally then I feel along with you to some degree that better peripherals all add into that mix… yet here and there still, perhaps one coloration in an accessory could be just the thing to polish the whole of it off.

Your replacement of outlets in that conditioner for example is a whole new idea to me and one I’d never have thought to do until now. Though I’m going to check with RSA to see which ones they used in their haley before I make any changes there.

I feel a rig is indeed a mixture regardless, when it’s all said and done… if it’s to come out of the oven done well.

Were the Avatar AfterBurner 8’s in any way better, or just the same but cheaper?

Many many thanks.
Donjr

A new ded ckt will take some time to run in too... so you're right with that bit.

Ded ckts are a step up but not a tremendous one. Noticeable seems to fit here best.

I'd simply join it all in at once and let it ride as both the plug and line needs run in time and there's really no sense in prolonging things... unless of course your own curiosity is great in determining the degree of change for each area.
PS.... rather .... exchange the old plug AFTER all is run in down the road when you've nothing better to do, and see for yourself then.

Chadeffect

Thanks.. that's excellent info.

Did you go whole hog and add the $200 face plate on the Oy Gold?

$200 cover plates simply kill me. i don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Donjr
Great! Glad to hear things have stepped up a notch or three for you there.

I designed in some features in my latest house... Everything was brand new from the ground up... it seems to me things did not get right sounding for a pretty good while... A year? perhaps two actually. That incidental is also why I grazed into the power cond fields.

At 4 years it was better for sure. other items in the home don't affect things as readily now, like printer, chargers, phones, wall worts.. etc.

Congrats.

The flip side of "If it ain't broke don't fix it" is, "If it ain't broke, screw around with it and you might get lucky enough to make it better"... on which the audio industry and many therapists rely.

We'll see... or hear... at some point.

Mooglie

Thanks. That's good stuff on the copper aspect.

I'm currently onto this idea:
2 Porters
Either 2 Teslaplex or 1 each tesla & Oy R1.

I should get a fair cross section that way.

I am a mite hard pressed to believe an outlet can/will attenuate some part of the bandwidth though... and think maybe some part is not seen quite so prominent as perhaps the rest of it might be.

has anyone found any of these after market outlets a great choice for video? Like for a Front Projector?