Optimal speaker size for given room, or drivers?


How do I determine what speaker size to buy and how many drivers are appropriate for my room? My room is 14x22, with an opening at the back into a hallway. I also have another 6x8 foot arm toward the front. Ceilings are an average of 9 feet tall. Listening position will be 13 feet from the front, speakers 4 feet from the wall and 8 to 9 feet from each other. I can't try any of these at home without committing to a purchase.

Considering a full range like the B&W 802d, Thiel 3.7, Tyler Decade D1 or D2, or Sonus Faber Cremona M. These are examples of the size I am looking at, not speakers I have settled into (I have only heard the 803s, Cremona and older 3.6, for example). Something not too big (150lbs or so) and full, but not overwhelming. This isn't a long-term house for us and although a larger speaker would sound fine in this room, I may be using them in a smaller room in the future.

Some of these speakers feature many drivers and midranges, such as the Tyler D1, whereas others such as the 802D are essentially 1 midrange and 1 driver. The Cremona M is somewhere in the middle. What are advantages and disadvantages to each type of design? Is a larger array more complicated and harder to pull off, or is it simply a matter of cost of manufacture?
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Showing 2 responses by plato

The questions you've asked are very complex and would require a book (more likely several books) to address properly, not a few paragraphs in this forum.

What further complicates it is that you may change to a smaller room in the future but you're not sure when and you have no idea what size the other room will be.

A speaker with strong and extended bass performance might work well in your present room but may totally overwhelm a smaller room and sound terribly unbalanced.

If I were in your shoes, I'd concentrate on getting good sound in my present room and if I had to sell the speakers in the future to get good sound in a different room then that's what I would do.

How many drivers a speaker has is probably not that relevant to your particular situation. Anything from a single-driver speaker to a multi-driver line array could work well in your room... depending on your listening biases, associated gear, aspects of room acoustics, etc.

In other words your questions are far too vague to be answered with any certainty. Perhaps others could suggest some informational links for you. My view is that there's no substitute for a little trial and error. At least that way, your preferences will be based on your own experience and not somebody's opinion which may or may not represent your needs.

And besides... rooms are almost like fingerprints... each one has its own acoustic wrinkles.

Maybe you should simply buy decent but robust monitor speakers (or any decent speakers) that don't have significant output below 80Hz. Then you could fill in with a subwoofer or two and only change the subwoofer(s) if necessary, when you move.

To be more specific would be like a blind man trying to discribe a scene he's never seen.
4musica44107 writes:

"Although I found them to be a bit less musical and involving than the Sonus Fabers, I have never heard a speaker that images better than the Quatro's."

My NSR Sonic Research Sonata D3 speakers image considerably better than my friend's Quatros... The D3s also sound more immediate, detailed, and dynamic. They would work well in your current room, but not in a much smaller room. That said, I believe the designer John Tabernacki will be coming out with smaller models that use the same technology sometime in 2009.

The Quatros are definitely darker in the upper midrange (steeper rolloff) than the NSRs, which is likely responsible for the NSRs sounding more vivid, lifelike, and detailed. The NSRs are also considerably more articulate in the bass.

Disclaimer: As with most comparisons made in this forum, my above comparison of the Vandersteen Quatros to the NSR Sonata D3s was made in two different listening rooms, with two different sets of associated gear, and on different days. So the comparison may be entirely valid or entirely invalid. In any case, it was based on my actually hearing both systems with familiar recordings.