Additional follow-up. After receiving the Nuforce93NE on March 31st I've been playing it without keeping count of the exact hours[after the first 20 hours had passed]. There has been a further improvement in the sound quality but I can't say just excly when it occured. It struck me this week as I replayed Shelby Lynn's "Just A Little Lovin'"..the very first cd I played on the machine when it arrived. Now allowing for my hearing becoming familiar with the sound of the unit still surprised me when I was down the hall on the computer while the disc played and there was an apparent ease and more texturing fullness of timbre, just more there all with a greatly emhanced sense of flow and ease. I had to sit down and listen. The Truth Accoring to Ruthie Foster, a fav cd of mine, followed and yup. SOmething had changed for the better here. The emotion of Ruthie's voice was obvious and sung with an enhanced ease I had not heard before. It has continued on every disc I've listened to since. I guess you really do hear this unit at its very best after a few weeks. Go figure...At least that is what has happend to me here in my system. YMMV. Now back to the Stanley CUp, cheers, everyone, lloyd |
Hi everyone. I cannot decide between the 93NE and 95 for AV (Bluray and DVD) and auido only (CD, etc) playback. I am concerned about fan noise on the 95. My setup would include either the 93NE or the 95 HDMI video to a monoprice HDMI switch box then right to the LG 50PV450 50" plasma. For audio, I will use the analog out with only the left and right front channels enabled (rest of channel info mixed into the left and right channels) since I am a two channel guy. Preamp is a NAD T163 in two channel mode for all analog and digital inputs and my amp is a Audio Refinement multi 5 used to drive my Tekton 6.5t in biamp mode. I do not need balanced outputs from the Oppo to my preamp. Whichever Oppo unit I go with, it will be replacing a Linn Classik Music as my CD source and a Sony BDP-470 as my DVD / Bluray source. |
Indeed it does make you listen for hours on end, I use a PS Audio AC3 12 gauge cable on my 95 and after full burn in I plan to pop in a HiFi Tunning Supreme fuse, I use an AC10 on my Quintet and an AC12 on my 2Channel amp, all Components have Silver Star fuses ( with phenomenal results). IV'e been holding back to see what character the 95 was going to have as it's my first Oppo, I believe the Supreme and an AC10 will be a good match because of the Hi resolution the 95 is capable of, You said it best, it deserves the best treatment and you couldn't be more right! |
Changing the stock cord to a Pangea ac-14SE after breaking in the unit was a nice improvement. Altogether a nice package. But I also liked this PC on my older 83SE. So, do try an upmarket PC on your Oppo. They deserve the love...:)... To be clear on tubes I simply wish to say that this Nuforce-93NE doesn't do the syrupy, over soft sound. There seems to be no hint of digital here. There is a wonderful energy infused into my sytem that has me hanging on every word. It is amazing how vocals sound so right.It simply sounds like music that draws me in and makes it hard to get work done. It is very addictive. Just one of those units that make you want to listen. cheers, lloyd |
ithe decision to purchase an oppo 95 and have it modified vs tmodwright modded 83se may boil down to the sound of tubes, to some extent vs the sound of solid state. while this may be an oversimplification, it haaaaaaaaas been suggested that nuforce's mod does not produce the sound of tubes, while dan's mod does.
i guess it is a matter of taste. |
Hi, Jdub39. I suspect your Oppo95 is very good on playback. Oppo really souped up the analogue section compared to the 83SE. I imagine all that experice with the 83SE has led to a serious audio improvment with your 95. Look at the Rotel transformer they use for example. I can't imagine not being very happy with that unit. There is a reason there is a waiting list here for it. But I couldn't wait so I'm very happy with my Nuforce 93NE. I understand there may be a software update for it. ALso I plant to change the plug to a three prong later on. happy listening eveyone, cheers, lloyd |
Hi, Mrtennis. The Nuforce 93NE is $899 US. If you already own an oppo 93[I think they're selling for about $499US,] the Nuforce upgrade board can be bought separate and installed by the 93 owner. I believe I saw that on their website. THe Modwright tube upgrade is [correct me if I'm wrong], I think about 1400US. I have not heard the modwright mod but I supect if you're keeping an Oppo 83SE it would a very musical mod. Modwright has a very fine reputation. I've been told by a friend in the know, of his electronics as being extremly musical. However I'm very content with this Nuforce 93SE. I think its "special". YMMV. It's all relative. Hope that helps, cheers, lloyd |
hi bluenose:
if you had to choose between a modwright modded oppo 83 se with a tube output stage (67n7) tubes, plus tube rectification, which gave a more tube like presentation, more body and warmth, would you still stay with your bdp 93 NE ?
by the way, how much does the oppo cost and how much additional is the mod.
nuforce tends toward the transparent in many of their products so the choice between oopo + tubes vs opp 93 with no tubes is interesting. |
Nice indeed, glad to hear it, wish I could compare it to my 95, which I'am totally elated with and pronounced it a giant killer on AVS. Good thing is you might not need to wait on computer playback as your Nu93 does it as well. I got my first taste from HD Tracks free sample, just download media monkey to your PC, then the free 24/192 files, put them on a usb stick, plug it in the Oppo and prepare to be amazed!I thought I'd look into that latter but the 95 does it so well might look into it sooner! |
After a 20 hour break-in[suggested by Jason at Nuforce], I have really started to listen to this unit. My system is old, Sim, Krell Roxan, wiring by Acoustic Zen, Monarchy Audio, [all single core crystal]. PS audio Power Quintet, Power cds by Pangea and Grant Fidelity. Speakers are the -NewformResearch 30-2's. Sources have nowheres to hide on Ribbons but I've had SET preamps on these before and Set can mess up your mind for weeks[they did mine]. There is a rightness to the midrange that SETs do that can make everything else sound broken. This Nuforce BDP-93NE is reported to be voice with even-order harmonics like a SET.I hope this gives you and idea my likes. The NUForce BDP-93NE plays music in my system with a effortless seamlessness, competing musical clues that my Oppo 83se only hinted at or simply missed. It's not small or sutle a difference. It is a fundamental shift in how the music is coming into my listening room. The depth strikes me as very fine. Vocals together are distinct not covering one another, cymbals float in the space they appear into and out of, no hiss. It makes me listen to each disc as if for the first time. No, not tuby, just a feeling of rightness to the point I don't want to change a thing. This will do me until computer based playback is an option for me. This is something very special and you can hear it. If anyone else tries this unit please keep us informed. I can't beleive how much more the vocals can give you on this unit. But everything else is better, reed instruments, horns and piano are just lovely, bass appears with impact and tightness, potent but musical. Reverberation is just there, everything in is own space but all together as a whole. Quite wonderful. I love this unit. YMMV. Now I have to listen to Shelby Lynn again. In one word, MUSICAL. I think that's it. Happy listening.cheers, lloyd |
I personally have a 95 with close to 240 hrs on it, it was tough not to go for the Nuforce 93 at the time but the ESS Sabre dac's, balanced outs and build Quality pushed the 95 ahead. The unit replaced a Denon 5900 and out the box it bettered it in my setup.So keep us posted indeed! |
Well the Nuforce 93SE arrived this pm. . Will give it break-in. But out of the box, it's a keeper. I guess my beloved Oppo 83SE will have to fine a new home before spring ends. More to follow. I think I'll be doing alot o listening in the next few days. Will give an idea of what I think I'm hearing in my room in my system. Do note I have no invested interest in either company. I simply wanted to "hear for myself in my own system", and this was for mainly cd playback with video a bonus. Nuforce has a 30-day return policy. cheers, lloyd |
Yes, I will. I have some audiophile friends dropping in after I've broken it in. One is a Leban guy and the other has Pass Labs. Their cd playbackbacks are Marantz Sacd and ArcamFMJ33, which already showed itself to be more refined and finished in my system compared to my OppoSE.They both have good ears. We'll give it a fair but honest listen, no holds barred. Will I be overwhelmed or underwhelmed? At least it should be interesting. Will let you know what we hear, cheers, lloyd |
Let us know what it sounds like when you get it!
Happy listening! |
I guess this product is too new. ANyways, I pulled the trigger and ordered a BDP-93NE. It ships on March 31st. I'm taking advantage of the 30-day return policy[I will only be out shipping if the unit fails to impress. I think this is a win, win as I'll know what it does in my system and how it performs against the redbook cd playback of my OPPO 83SE. If I had the chuckles I would have sent my OPPO 83SE in to Modwright for the tube mod...thanks again, lloyd |
