Opinons on Musical Fidelity A3 cr Preamp


Very interesting preamp so far (I've had it 3 days). Doesn't sound like a solid-state preamp at all. Very musical, very natural, relaxed sound. Harmonically complex, especially in comparison to my MFA Magus tube preamp - which has a sweet, forward midrange, but not that much on either the top or the bottom). A little less bright than the Magus as well, and I'm find myself having to raise the volume a little higher with the MF to hear vocalists than with the Magus -- probably because the tube units pronounced midrange emphasis. After 8 years with the Magus, it's taking a little getting used to. The MF is far superior with classical recordings. I am leaning towards keeping it (I have the usual 30 day return privledge with Audio Advisor), but I'd be interested other owners/previous auditioner's opinions. If it goes back, I'd probably be looking for a pre-owned Joule Electra LM-100 III (at probably $600 more than the MF) or Rogue Audio 99 -- pieces (from what I've read) are worth a serious audition. So I'd be interested in any comparisons to those units.
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The A3cr is a very nice pre amp, although I would give it at least three solid weeks of audition in before making any appraisal. I bought an A3cr combo some months ago - together they make a very exciting pair. However, I wound up returning the pre for a Sonic Frontiers Line 1. With proper NOS retubing, I found the SF to deliver greater presence than the A3cr, particularly with vocals and more intimate arrangements. The Line 1 (with proper retubing - and I cannot overemphasize this) strikes a good balance between the strengths of tubed and SS preamps - dynamic, neutral and extended, yet musical. I found it at least the equal of the A3cr in range, dynamics and detail. The A3cr is nevertheless a very fine performer, particularly at its price point - very transparent, quiet and smooth. On complex recordings, the A3cr left me with the impression that it captures absolutely everything, but just not quite as elegantly or coherently as the retubed SF. I've not heard the Rogue, but did briefly consider it - I understand the 99 to have a more euphonic signature than the Joule and certainly far more so than the SF or MF - perhaps closer to the stereotypical tube sound. The Joule is really at another price point, even used. I strongly considered it as well, but felt the SF a better match in my system.
The Line 1 is exceedingly polite up the middle with the stock 6922s - I didn't like it either. However, there has been extensive commentary on the SF pre amps over the years and the universal theme is that these units come alive once you pull those terrible stock Sovteks. I obtained a full six tube upgrade set from Kevin Deal, including two wonderful Siemens valves, which completely transformed it. It is really just terrific now, especially in that all important midrange. You've got to retube these units to fully appreciate their potential.
It's somewhat difficult to quantify how much better any one product is over another. Does the retubed Line 1 stomp all over the A3cr? Absolutely not, and the MF has some very desirable strengths, including razor sharp but smooth full spectrum resolution and no need to find and buy rather expensive NOS tubes down the line. But as I mentioned previously, I think with the right tubes the SF yields an overall realism that the MF doesn't quite match. It's very close, however, and I would happily live with the MF if I had to. The SF with the Siemens just gives a greater sense of holographic "thereness" than the MF, without any loss of detail or extension. Dare I say, but it was the slightest bit more musical than the A3, at least in my setup. Please also note that it takes a VERY long time to burn in a SF pre amp, especially when you notice all those Multicaps inside (I've used Multicaps in prior tube projects and they take literally hundreds of hours to settle down, during which they sound very brittle). Only having the SF a couple of weeks may not have been long enough for a decent burn in. There are some other factors besides the sound that had me more impressed with the SF, including the extensive use of much better quality components, better rear jack layout (the MF has a rough time accomodating larger RCA pairs), and more usable features, such as non degrading balance control. SF also does offer upgrades to their products (such as the SE version you mentioned - and Valvos are very nice tubes), which MF does not. Contrary to some posts, I've had no problems with my SF and it has a higher quality "feel" to it than the MF, if that is important to you. If might be impossible to do, but before you give up on the A3 perhaps an SF dealer would loan you a demo Line 1 with upgraded tubes (many SF dealers sell NOS tubes) to compare directly in your system. That is really the only sure way to tell. One last note: you mentioned an interest in the Joule. It should be noted that Joule pre amps are designed, voiced and manufactured with carefully selected NOS tube makes (Jud Barber is a big believer in the superiority of NOS) - perhaps explaining their wonderous performance. I can only imagine what an LA-100 would sound like with new Sovteks.