Opinions on Reference LP Digitization System ...


I'm considering my options for digitizing my LP collection, and, after doing a bit of research, came up with the following list of components (with current retail prices, noted). Computer itself not included in list. This is all hypothetical.

I'd be aiming for 'reference' but not 'money doesn't matter at all'.

Maybe, rather than choosing/commenting on what *you* would personally choose, think of the following: imagine 100 audiophiles are in a room, including you - what set-up would have the highest average score?

In terms of cartridge, do you think pure neutrality would win out on average (and if so, what cartridge would you suggest) or slightly sweeter/warmer (and again, if so, what cartridge)? Other cartridge thoughts?

Feel free to pick apart the list, but if you substitute something more expensive, that means having to sacrifice elsewhere (the hypothetical list below totals approx. $42,000, so think of approx. $45,000 as your budget, buying new (not from Audiogon)).

Many thanks in advance for any comments received.

VPI HR-X TT + JMW 12.7 tonearm + Valhalla wiring ($15,000)
Air Tight PC-1 Supreme cartridge ($9,000)
Kimber Kable PK14 Palladian power cord for TT ($1,300)
Ginko Cloud 11 (medium) isolation platform for TT ($600)
Ginko dustcover for TT ($400)
Channel D Seta L (rechargeable battery) phonopreamp ($4,100)
Kimber Kable Orchid (preamp-aesb digital connect) ($700)
Lynx AES16 soundcard ($700)
Shunyata Cyclops power conditioner ($2,000)
Grand Prix Audio Monaco 3 shelf stand ($2,900)
VPI Typhoon record cleaner ($2,700)
Furutech DeMag LP demagnetizer ($2,700)
Aesthetix ABCD-1 cartridge demagnetizer ($200)
herschelr

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RW - consider me suitably put-in-my-place vis-a-vis reality.

Although I completely understand the reaction, there are considerations re: $/motivation that, in retrospect, perhaps should have had me frame my question differently, so let me try again.

Framed differently (attempt #2): I'd appreciate any input as to building a reference LP digitization system. Normally, anybody considering this would be constrained by financial reality of the average audiophile/consumer/working-person. I'd simply like to remove that (for the most part) from the equation.

The reason I capped it out at $45,000 is that when I was considering a 'reference' system, I came up with the system noted at the beginning of this thread - in other words, I wasn't constrained by my own wallet, but at the other end, I wasn't selecting the most expensive TT, cartridge, etc. on the planet. So instead of pure 'dreaming', I thought of it as a 'dream-with-limits' (if that makes any sense), while still being able to clearly call the system 'reference'.

Maybe imagine I've been hired by a wealthy individual to determine the answer to this question (I haven't, but the mental parameters become a bit different then).

RW - I'm genuinely interested in your comment about making a superb transfer for well under 10K - what would those components be?

If the thread becomes a string of mocking me, I'd understand, but I'm trying to remove $ (for the most part) out of the equation when people are considering their thoughts. By placing a limit of $45,000, someone wouldn't come back with, e.g., 'start with the Clearaudio Ultimate Reference TT' ...

Many thanks, in advance for the thoughts.

C.
My understanding is the Lynx AES16 soundcard is acting as the a/d converter, although a stand-alone A/D converter (between the amp and the computer) is another option.

Tx.

C.
... and Greenkiwi, yes, the software I'd use would be PureVinyl by ChannelD - I was more focussing on getting the signal from the record to the software ...

C.
Many thanks for responses so far.

My 'list' was formed partly after reading the Stereophile article on PureVinyl software, where MF notes: "Whether you use your own phono preamplifier or one of the Setas to rip LPs, you're also going to need a good 24-bit/192kHz-capable soundcard—or, if you're using a laptop, a good outboard A/D converter" which suggested to me (since I have a desktop) that Seta preamp + soundcard = all I need. It seems (maybe I'm wrong) that this is perhaps a typo, and that yes, I'd need to include the A/D converter between the pre-amp and soundcard.

Initial thought just with a quick look on the Net is the Forssell MADC-2 ($3,000).

C.
Ejlif and Al - those are insightful comments - thanks.

My investigations leading to the Forssell A/D were directly related to your point, Ejlif.

Al, we were thinking the same thing at about the same time - the 'light bulb' went off for me thinking (what will the a/d feed) 'why a computer?', and those thoughts led me to the Tascam DV-RA1000HD ($1,500).

Further, Al, you've opened up my thoughts to the issue of vibration control and the need for it/extent needed if there's no playback in the system - that is, no loudspeakers creating any vibration - just the components in the system itself/ambient vibration.

Thanks.

C.

C.