opinions on modern horn speakers


Hello kind souls on the gon ,Do any of you have any opinions on the sound of some of the new horns on the market? Like the oris , avantgard or ?I have owned most types of speaker systems, many very pricy and popular,All sounded souless compared to a good horn on a SET amplifier .Have any of you experanced the same? Or the oposite?.Many people say that horns are in your face or honky sounding .I have only heard this out of antique horns and PA gear .Just wondering if others have a opinion on this .Thxs for your time .JK
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JRD ,My oris trihorn can play old rock ,punk and poor recordings .Sounds better on old tunes then any system I have owned, SET amps are very forgiving and if its good music it will be real fun to listen too .Thats one of the reasons I went horns is so I dont have to play audiophile recordings to get great musicality .Take care and happy listening
Karls,I have owned the avantgard duo 2.2 and heard some of the plastic colorations but they are slight [all speakers have colorations] ,I also have had problems with vibrations in my oris 150 trihorn but since its DIY I tuned them out for the better .I also did not like the driver integration on the avantgard or my oris horn but again DIY solved that problem by using dual horns perside and lifting the woofers up the the aqustic center of the speaker.Iam also working on a metal plastic composite horn should have no resonace problems,Thanks for your reply JK
Marko445,I have owned almost all of martin logans speakers inc ,prodigy.They where souless compared to horns also owned sound lab and maggies,same souless sound impresive on a quick listen but not a speaker for the long term listening,at least to me ,thxs for your reply
Richardmr,vons are great speakers and sensitivity is one of the best ways to get great sound .Right now Iam building a 100db speaker based on a ribbon tweeter and PHL mids and woofers .Prototype sounds great, woofers will be 100db so all will run on 1 amp.Will cost arround $2500 just for parts and build so retail would be arround $4000,So vons not so far off on the price on the DB100S after all .Have you tried a 300b set or 845 ,They would run your speaker fine [depending on room size] .And sound better in the mids than a push pull.Take care and happy listening
My horns sound great on all music no need to switch .I have a friend who wants to trade his avolon edilons for my horns thought about it but I would sell the edilon to build a new pair so...
BD DESIGNS WEB SITE ,The pics are under John Kalinowsky first pic .They do look better in person.Thanks for the responces .JK
JRD .I do quite a bit of work in studios .Alot have horns for main monitoring or at least the tweeters are horns .Also horns use dynamic drivers .FYI
Aroc ,owned the abby, nice speaker for $1500. I helped U.V.A. become a cain dealer ,but they are weak in the bass and highs . Dont know what you mean by split your skull open .Maybe they have too much dynamic range for you or where demo to loud [happens alot at shows].No sound stage??? My horns sound so real the artists are right in front of you if thats where the producer mixed them .I have a solid 19ft sound stage on most recordings way better than my martin logans ,sound labs or maggies could do .Still perfer planars. I used too till I purchased good horns .Also senile ?? Iam only 38, hope its not happening allready .lol.Thxs for your reply
JRD alot of the studios I have been to use TAD ,Seems to many studios use those terible yamahas ,I love it when they cover up the tweeters .LOL
Duke ,I perfer the oris horn to the avantgarde duo or trio ,Beside the price diferance my DIY oris horns integrate way better than a trio and have less resonance problems .Avantgarde uses such weak steal in there frames the horns move arround quite a bit. Also the drivers are easly localizable .My dual oris 150 trihorn has time alined horns and bass towers. All drivers are as close to the acustic center as posible .They sound like a large electrostatic with huge dynamics and real musicality .When I changed over to horns I didnt want to lose what I like about planels.Theres a pic of my prototype trihorn on the BD designs web site show room first pic .Thxs for your reply
Jposs, my good friend owns rethems the first model forgot the model, has a 8in lowther pm3 think? nice speaker ,Full range drivers are a good place to start .But full range is not really true. You will have reduced highs and bass but what a glorious midrange .I have owned and build single driver speakers ,now most I use super tweeters with .And dual subs .I think on first listen this is why so many dis fullrange drivers .But they dont know what there missing out on .Musicality.Thxs for the reply
Jet, the reason why the solos sound bad on poor recordings is the solid state amplifiers used .Heard them .I have also experamented with solid state on sensitive speakers .Only works good for low frequincys .Most solid state is grainy and unforgiving also the pure soul of the music gets lost .Sensitve speakers and quality SET amps have a certain majic to them that you can not really experance unless you try it in your home .Home auditions are where you can really get the feel for the gear .Thxs for your reply