Open Baffle Phy HP KM 30 SAG update


Well, I finally got around to putting the PHY drivers in prototype baffles. I used 1/2" Birch plywood baffles that measure 45" X 27 3/4". I offset the drivers in the baffles.

When I first fired the speakers up I was disappointed, but I realized they needed to be broken in. My *heavily modified* Newform Research 645's were easily superior to what I was hearing from the Phy's.

I put a bass-heavy CD on repeat and began the burn-in process. The first 10 hours were depressing. The soundstage was flat, congested and had no air. There was a lower-midrange hump that was annoying. Even though the drivers were new, I was hoping for more.

Well, by the time the PHY's reached 30 hours, all of my fears vanished. I am stunned at how good these things sound. They have crushed my Newforms in every respect, as well as several other high-end speakers I have listened to recently.

The soundstage is now huge and 3D. The piano has the weight and size of a real grand piano and with phenomenal harmonics. I have never heard a better sounding piano on any speaker. The sheer weight and tonality of each note is striking. I thought the piano sounded good on my 645's (and I have a grand piano in my business that is played every night, so I know what it should sound like), but the PHY's are so realistic its scary.

Voices and instruments now have lots of air and there is a realism to these speakers that is hard to describe. The lower-midrange hump has vanished and speaker placement made a huge difference, as well. From the front of the baffle, they are 28" from the front wall and the center of the driver is 26" from the side wall. The drivers are 9 1/2 feet apart center-to-center and the imaging is outstanding. They simply disappear. The soundstage is huge and deep with an incredible mid-range and sweet high-end. It is hard to quantify how much more information I am hearing on the PHY's than my Newforms, but it is substantial.

I am sure the drivers will continue to break in and sound even better, but if they never improved beyond their current state, I would be incredibly satisfied. I was greatly concerned that the PHY's would have no bass to speak of in an open baffle - WRONG. They surely didn't at first, but now the bass doesn't sound much different on a lot of material than my Newforms. I suspect room gain is helping the PHY's. With the 645's, room gain was a problem, but with the PHY's I believe it is a plus.

The 645's clearly go lower, but the quality of the bass with the PHY's is also much better. Let me put it this way; I am going to explore dual subs, but if the bass improves just a little more with break in, I certainly won't feel compelled to add the subs. I don't listen to any rock, rap or organs, so the lowest octaves aren't that important to me. I plan on measuring them shortly to see just how low they are going and where they are rolling off.

I am going to proceed with making my permanent baffles using 1/2" Lexan for the front baffle and Koa for the smaller rear baffle that actually supports the driver. I think they will look great when completed and I am convinced they will sound even better than the simple plywood baffles.

I have a good friend to thank for the suggestion that I try the PHY OBs. I really trust his ears and he raved about another mutual friend's PHY OB's. After talking with the two of them (they both have $$$ high-end systems, go to CES every year and have heard it all), they convinced me that the PHY's were world-class drivers and were incredible in an OB. With a leap of faith I took the plunge.

Since the drivers only cost me about $2,800, I figured what the heck, I'd try 'em. If I didn't like 'em, I'd just sell them and take a bath if I had to.

Well, along with my Berning ZH270 (which I also purchased new without hearing it first), the PHY's are the best audio purchase I have ever made. I will post a follow-up after I finish my permanent baffles, but even with my prototypes, there's no going back to boxes for me. Now I know what the OB guys over at DIYaudio have been raving about.
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I am an Audiogoner that purchased a pair of PHYs almost a year ago and am responding to your email. Now that I'm acclaimated with the speaker in my 15' x 15' room I can speak on it. Terrific, the wings on the baffle help in the tuning process. I've tried it with and without wings because the speaker size looked imposing in my room, but I must say the wings on the baffles produced better staging and better bass. I'm currently using a borrowed Roger Majeski 6EM7 5 watt Single ended amp with the Promitheus TVC preamp. Without question, if no one has auditioned this EM7 series amps...PLEASE. I plan to purchase the 12watt version though the 5 watter is fine it's just good to have that versatility for less sensitive speakers.
(1.) Link for the EM7 series http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?action=search2
I will send to your personal email a picture of my Open Baffles
Best,
regards,
Fonz
Sure Dan
Hit me on my home email: lynnonzo@netscape.com and I will gladly reply with pics. My system is in a state of flux. I'm getting off the merry-go-round and am going to settle on my last pair of speakers. I'm halfway to the Avantgarde UNO on the "GON" but I have too much into the PHY driver and solid cherry baffles to let them go cheap. I'm devoting all my time to woodworking which is my first love, actually second to my wife and Kids. As nice as the PHY is, if I hadn't heard my friends UNOs earlier this week in GA. I would have been happy.
Best regards,
Fonz
I'm sorry I left you out. My email is lynnonzo@netscape.com
I will gladly send pics.
Best,
Fonz
Silwerfeldt
I believe I have some pictures I can send you, the full and small scale.
Regards,
Fonz