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I have a setup for a send system that I have been playing with to see what I can do on the cheap and I've been quite surprised at the result so far. I've been reading about supposedly major improvements in performance of the Fosi ZA3 amps with op amp swaps. I'm wondering if anyone else has had any experience with the various ones available. I'm running the dual mono with XLR on each speaker bi wired to max the power which means I'll need three per amp which will cost more than the amps so I'd like to get it right the first time if I can. I'd like to take some of the sibilance from the top end which some I reckon comes from the nature of the speakers (Klipsch RPM 600II). Any opinions/advice would be most welcome. I'm looking at the Burson v7 vivid and the sparko but the sparko has been reported as softening the ZA3 too much which the reviewers on youtube seem to like for the V3 mono but not for the ZA3. I have attached a link to the setup because I cand figure out how to attach the photo to this forum. Thanks in advance

johnnybwood

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This is the actual setup. Figured out how to upload the pic. I've used an RTA to balance the subwoofer levels to the speakers using the sub out on the back of the amp then dialed it in with Dirac live in the node icon. 

I will say that the system is quite a departure from my main system which uses electric static speakers and Macintosh gear, but I don’t want to reinvent the wheel. I’m just having fun with this all digital system in a simplistic set up.That being said, I don’t wanna be reinventing the wheel here. I’m quite happy for right now to work with what I’ve got. I actually like the way the system sounds for what it is. I just wanted to tame down the forward brightness of the clips in the class D apps with maybe some mellow or sounding op apps. if anybody out there has done it I’d love to hear about it. I'm getting into streaming and probably will inegrate it into my main system but for now I'm enjoying the simplicity of this system and checking out new music. I like tinkering with equipment so I thought it would be fun to mod the amps.

bigeks357

Did the vivids reign in and take some of the edge off? Do you think it was significant enough to justify it? Looks like about 500.00 for the six. Won't bother with the sub outs. Doubt there would be any appreciable gains there.

Using the Node icon for all the frontend duties eArc for video stuff and a cheap Sony Blu Ray player just in case. Pretty bare bones but that was the point. 2500. Total investment! The result is still surprisingly good! Just thought swapping out the op amps might take some of the digitallyness off the amps lol. Not a word- I know!

Thanks! I've been looking at the vivids. I'm running one dual mono for each speaker with XLR splitters and biwire to maximize the output. Tried them mono non-biwired not nearly as defined and lost there punch so I feel splitting is worth. That will mean three pairs of op amps. Iv3 heard theonos are brighter than the za3's so don't think I will go that way. 

so you're saying swapping didn't yield any benefit on the balanced input stage, only RCA? Just amplification stage? I was looking at the vivids so I take a shot at those. The za3's have enough height inside the case for those. I didn't the v3's would have room. Shouty is an apt description of those speakers. It's quite a departure from the sound of my electrostats but I like mixing up listening experiences. Hearing things in a different way.

if I’m to understand what I’ve been reading the op amp in the back is to convert the RCA input to a balanced signal so I believe it can be removed from the unit if using XLR. I've ordered two pairs of V7 classics to try on the Two amps running dual mono biwired. I'm hoping they will take some of the hard edge off the speakers and give a more analog feal from the system. Will be reporting back next week. Cheers!

Ordered the classics instead of the vivids on Bloom Audio's recommendation. Hopefully it won’t rob detail and dynamics for the sake hopefully getting rid of digital artifacts.

I guess I’ll be reporting back on the V7 classics and sharing my thoughts on those since they will be here today. Haven’t heard of staccato or orange before so I obviously haven’t dug very deep into this but if these don’t work out I will be investigating further before throwing good money after bad for sure.

Cheers

Installed the V7 classics and tried them out. Wow! Huge improvement in performance. Wouldn't go so far as to call it a giant killer but they are far more musical than before. The V7 monos look like they are different than the za3's as far as the inputs go so I'm not sure how much affect changing the op amps for XLR circuit would have. Have to investigate further on that. I've effectively doubled the cost of these already so it would have to be a fairly significant improvement to drop another buck and a half on them.

Cheers