On Step Ups and the Importance of Managing Gain


The past several weeks have been some of the most eye opening in my entire audio journey. Despite over 30 years listening to LPs across a range of setups it seems I've only just stumbled across one of the secrets of analog reproduction -- the step up transformer AKA the importance of managing gain across the analog reproduction chain.

To understand what I mean you need to start with an understanding of my gain cascade prior to my most recent changes. My cartridge is an Acoustical Systems Palladian which is a relatively low output MC at 0.33mV. I've been running it into an ARC Ref 2SE Phono and then an ARC 40th pre. Both are connected balanced so the gain is 51dB (for the phono stage) plus 12dB (for the pre) = 63dB at the LO gain setting -- I tried listening to the HI gain (74dB) setting on the phono but found the added FET amplification added an edge to the sound, amplified hum and restricted dynamics. I'd therefore learned to live with having the Ref 40 volume control on the high side (about 70-80% of range) and "thought" I was getting good sound - great clarity, sound-staging and frequency delineation.

However with a pending upgrade in my phono stage to the VOSS phono, a pure 40dB only single ended affair, I was forced to add a step up to my setup. I've always sworn off the added complication and additional switching and cables so had assumed it would not do anything to improve things. How wrong I was. The model I have is the Music First Audio Classic V2 in a custom configuration built for me with two inputs (one for my mono arm and cartridge) and fixed 20dB gain (1:10 ratio). It also has a three way ground lift switch so any hum issues can be addressed at source (which works btw). At about $3K it's not cheap (and MFA have cheaper options) but in the scheme of things actually much less than the list price of the interconnect I needed to add to connect it to my phono stage (so in the context of my system a stone cold bargain). 

My gain cascade is now 20dB (step up) plus 45dB (phono, now single ended) plus 12dB = 77dB and the volume control is at 40-50% of range. Once I'd realized that running a step up into 200 ohms is not going to work at all and switched the ARC Ref2SE to 47K I was off -- and was I surprised! All of the sudden the soundstage opened up by 50% side to side, front to back and up and down. Dynamics on individual instruments suddenly snapped into focus and the overall presentation was transformed in a way I would not believe possible. One instance can serve as a sense of what I mean -- the two opening cuts on Joni's Hejira, "Coyote" and "Amelia", are mostly similar sounds layered over one another and can be pretty hard to sort out. With the new step up in place it's as if everything now makes sense and each instrument is positioned in space perfectly in location and scale with all the others.

So what's my take away and potential advice to any reading this?
  1. High gain (i.e. 60dB plus) phono stages are, as we all know, problematic so if you can avoid going that way consider looking into it, BUT
  2. Don't "push your gain" i.e. try to under drive a stage, you may not know it (as I didn't) but trying to amplify .33mV with "only" 51dB is probably losing a lot of detail into the noise floor of your amplification stage and/or giving you problems down stream if gain is set too high
  3. So given 1 and 2 try a step up -- you may be surprised as I was!
Not sure if this experience matches with others and would love some perspective from amplifier designers as to why I may have had such a bad (in retrospect) experience with my prior gain cascade.
folkfreak

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@almarg thanks. One minor correction. I neglected to note that the MFA also has adjustable load so I have maintained the 200ohms seen by the cartridge. The step up needs to see 47k to work so that is how the phono stage is set

@lewm thanks for your post. My observation on high gain was also conditioned by Johns design of the VOSS eschewing the attempt to get more than 40dB as presenting unacceptable trade offs

@willemj agreed on matching to the prior stage. Interestingly my DCS cd system offers adjustable output. The 2v level both sounds much worse and also leads to the volume control being too low. Seems the ARC may work best with the volume control set close too mid range which I suspect is not far off no gain at that stage. One day I’ll try connecting the CD direct to find out where zero gain actually is ...
So accepting that my caveats with high gain may all be down to shortcomings in the ARC design (although no reviewer of this model line has ever said that) the main point I was trying to make was regarding my experience adding 14dB in my preferred low gain set up. My amps are VTL MB 450 III with a rated input sensitivity of 775mV. Assuming I’m getting the same voltage level output from the preamp with or without the step up why would the performance with the step up be so different? Is it inherent to the step up or is it also a problem of trying to amplify too small a signal at the pre amp (or for that matter at the phono stage). Should manufacturers quote a minimum desirable input sensitivity just as they quote a maximum?

@rauliruegas not sure why you feel the step up limits the frequency extremes? I’m hearing sub bass I never knew was there (eg super low bass drum, door slam like, buried in mix of Krall “Departure Bay”) and much more realistic and extended treble. If you’ve never tried a Stevens & Billington based design maybe you should check one out. I know Jonathan went all out with mine and like I said they’re not so expensive
I believe it would make sense. Some of the best phono stages use a transformer gain stage first to match the cartridge. Take for example the Tenor phono stage which has a 4 Times (ie 6dB) transformer stage as the first step in amplification
http://www.monoandstereo.com/2016/09/tenor-phono-1-review-by-richard-h-mak.html
@jollytinker while @rauliruegas and I may have different opinions on what makes for a good sounding phono stage my observation was merely to assure you that adding a low gain step up is a valid approach

 You will have to take into account the cost of another interconnect and the issue of dealing with potential hum problems however 
One quick question to the amp design gurus. My power amps (VTL MB-450 III) have variable sensitivity as a function of damping factor. I'm guessing (based on what I hear) that lower damping factor (less feedback) generally means more sensitivity? As the range is from 0.75V to 2V sensitivity it would be good just to confirm that the 0.75V is for the lowest DF and the 2V for the highest? That way I know if I'm getting in range with my gain cascade
@robd2 to your question I've no idea other than to suggest that perhaps they start from a flexible multi-tap arrangement like MFA offer (offering a choice of 1:5, 1:10 or 1:20 and 10K-80K loading)? I'd rather have the step up designed for the specific cartridge however

One other benefit of a step up is the ability to optimize grounding for the cartridge/turntable separate from the phono stage. As I observed here (https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/a-new-ground-benefits-of-introducing-the-synergistic-research...) I found that grounding my phono stage when it was directly connected to the cartridge made the sound worse. Now I go via a step up I recently added the SR Ground block back to the phono stage and found a noticeable positive improvement in removing a level of hash I was not aware of. 

Maybe the next step is to try something like this (http://www.monoandstereo.com/2017/11/new-akiko-audio-phono-booster.html#more) on the step up itself?
Thanks @almarg so the interesting conclusion is that in my prior setup (51dB gain in phono plus 12dB in pre) I was getting a maximum of 0.47V against 0.75V sensitivity hence I suspect the issues I was having. Now with my step up (20dB plus 40dB or 45dB plus 12dB) I am at 1.31-2.34V so lots of room and the dynamics I'm now enjoying
No worries @lewm I think we are all interested in different ways of skinning the cat of phono reproduction.