Old records.


I’ve been literally keeping my somewhat recently bought turntable (and accessories) on the shelf and not using it after spending a lot on it (for me.) ( You can take a look on my profile)
After comparing it to my digital side for quite a while I decided the SQ was not nearly as good. So, I put the cover on it and let it lay dormant.
Now I have a collection of about 3000 LPs, mostly from the 70’s and 80’s. And, sad to say, most of them just don’t sound that good. However I’ve recently been playing some newer records, and the sound is wonderful. I know this not supposed to be the case. So, it’s possible all my old records have been somewhat damaged with old or faulty styli. Anyhow I now have a new lease on life with my analog side.

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There is the notion that you prefer the Sound produced from your Digital Source and the Signal Path created between the Source Ancillaries over the Sound produced from the Vinyl Source and Signal Path in place between these Source Ancillaries.

I am late to the Party with Digital and am now a very contented with the use of a CDT > DAC as a Source.

My Vinyl Source was always satisfactory, and excelled a few years past when I adopted PC Triple C Wire cables into the Signal Path, this when being made known become infectious and there are quite a few adopters in my HiFi community.

It took time to get my Digital Source to produce a sonic that was in my assessment a Parity presentation to my Vinyl Source. By Parity, I mean as welcoming to be listened to, but certainly not a like for like presentation.

I would strongly suggest taking a few Albums from the Original Collection and clean them, the after experience can be night and day.

The following is a recommended Cleaner from the Linked Discussion, I would think it best to see how easy it is to get hold of this solution, the thread is long and at times extremely confusing. 

https://unitedhomeaudio.com/clearaudio-pure-groove-record-cleaning-fluid/

  "Pure Groove Essence - Ready to use"             

 

Distilled Water                                  679.218  g.         67.9218 %  p.b.w

Ethanol (100.00%).                          296.565  g.         29.6565 %  p.b.w.

Methanol (100.00%)                          20.637  g.           2.0637 %  p.b.w.

BASF Larostat 264A                           2.350  g.            0.2350 %  p.b.w.

BASF Lutensol LA                              1.230  g.             0.1230 %  p.b.w.            

Total:                                             1,000.000 g.            100.00 %  parts by weight

The above 1,000.000 grams will produce:  1.086 liters    

Volumetrically, for those who prefer to view formulations in that format, is as follows:

Distilled Water.                            62.668  %  p.b.v.

Ethanol (100.00%).                     34.600  %  p.b.v.

Methanol (100.00%).                    2.402  %   p.b.v.

Larostat 264A.                              0.214  %   p.b.v.

Lutensol LA                                  0.112  % p.b.v.

Total:                                          100.000 %   parts by volume

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In relation to cleaning, I am now a firm believer it is the mixture to produce a solution that is the most important part of the process.

The cleaning method will be a small proportion of the overall success.

I use a Manual Cleaning Method today with a Neil Antin suggested mixture.

The US Method is no longer considered.

@rvpiano Source Material is the only product in the chain that little can be done with, and I feel confident that within your collection there will be plenty of the Pressings that those who concern themselves about pressings will recommend.

My suspicion is that very shortly you will start to see advisories to move onto a SS Phonostage, as these will in most cases of my experiencing the designs in use be presenting in a manner that can be perceived as having a sharper edge.   

My suggestions to follow are what I consider not too expensive options to create a sonic that has become closer to the attraction your are looking for. 

Cleaning Pressings with the correct solution is for myself today everything, after being familiarised with a change of cleaning method, for the past 18months, I refer to the now used process as a Purification of Vinyl, nothing used before has created the impression of the Source Material being so decontaminated.

There was no need to make any changes to the Down Stream Ancillaries to become so impressed with the Vinyl being used, but as stated before, I am now able to fully experience the benefits of using Wire Types such as PC Triple C and D.U.C.C, along with my selection for Valve Types.

As for your CJ PV 11, I would not be too quick to suspect it of being a weak link, even though there will probably be contention on such a device being used presented by other members. As you have already invested in having the PV 11 undergo modifications, and have made earlier inquiries about the PV 11 the following might be of interest to you. 

The PV 1, has an interface within, that can easily be worked with, being the 2 x 12AU7 Tubes.

Tube Rolling has for myself proven to be extremely successful, I feel extremely confident this method id adopted by yourself, will produce something that is very much aligned to your tastes.

As a Tube Rolling follow up, trying out Interconnects terminated with Low Eddy RCA's, connected into Chassis Mounted Low Eddy RCA's can prove to be the most cost effective way forward, any rewards found from Tube Rolling will be accentuated for the better, if the ideal Interconnect is also discovered along with the use of the RCA Connectors, there is a whole lot of betterment that is being achieved.   

There is Plenty to read in the link, that might discourage the idea of exchanging Pre' and further enhance what is already owned.  

https://www.conradjohnsonowners.com/viewtopic.php?t=1852

@hsounds Vinyl LP collecting is as old as my interest in the Vinyl LP.

In my Teen years I met many who had Vinyl Collections, there is a renaissance for this, as today the Hard Medium is a merchandise offered by Performers and Fans want to own it. 

As these Pressings are limited in numbers, the Collectors are also attracted to making an investment to have a an attempt to see  appreciation realised. 

As a Hard Medium merchandise the remuneration is very valuable to the Performer, especially to keep their plans to perform viable.

Streaming as a means to experience music replays, is one that is heavily loaded against the Performer attempting to make it their career. Streaming is 'all in' for the Record Label and Streaming Service.