Old records.


I’ve been literally keeping my somewhat recently bought turntable (and accessories) on the shelf and not using it after spending a lot on it (for me.) ( You can take a look on my profile)
After comparing it to my digital side for quite a while I decided the SQ was not nearly as good. So, I put the cover on it and let it lay dormant.
Now I have a collection of about 3000 LPs, mostly from the 70’s and 80’s. And, sad to say, most of them just don’t sound that good. However I’ve recently been playing some newer records, and the sound is wonderful. I know this not supposed to be the case. So, it’s possible all my old records have been somewhat damaged with old or faulty styli. Anyhow I now have a new lease on life with my analog side.

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I am happy that this matter about the material pressing of vinyl was touched upon  here instead of  usual the alleged superiority of vinyl which for me in the actual digital state of the technology is only a matter of the cost/design /level of the concerned technology when compared to each other  ...

I am happy that this was discussed openly because it was the reason i quit vinyl buying spree BEFORE digital enter the scene ...

As i said when digital came the sound was horrible because it takes at least two decades before this technology was mature enough ...

As an important observation this does not means that all vinyl pressings were bad , at this times i owned a hundred vinyls it is not a big sample enough to gave the right information .... Then i may had been unlucky with my choices and it was half classical and half pop or folk ... This post of mine relate only a limited experience not the truth of the vinyl market at the times...

 

I remember well why i listened mostly only Bach because i was disgusted with vinyl buyings and not picking the best interpretation first but the more solid and well pressed one .,.. The other reason was my unsatisfaction with the sound quality of my audio system , even with a Sugden Amplifier and Tannoy dual gold concentric ... I did not know anything about what i learned in Acoustics and embeddingas controls in the last 10 years..😊

Then being ignorant my only way to improve the sound was buying costlier component ... But how to improve Tannoy dual concentric and Sugden ampliofier when you are relatively poor ? I did not upgraded ever from Tannoy or any other component i quit buying vinyl till digital ... Upgrading i know it now would had been a disaster because of my ignorance in acoustics and embeddings ...

 

I never listened in analytical mode , the only exception were when i was acoustically unsatisfied and frustrated ..

Then i take the time necessary ( months ) to optimize mechanically, electrically and acoustically and begininng with the best synergy between components for sure as a starting point...

When this is done and i succeeded three times in the last years : 2 times with different speakers and with a system with headphone...I never look back nor listen anymore in analyical mode after that because all evidents defects perceptions pertaining to the three systems were gone or solved or decreased for the best ...In the specs limits of this system potential for sure ...

My three systems were low cost , mostly vintage , and the results is that i never listen with any defects in backtought as a pinch of insatisfaction when all was well embedded ...

Then i concluded that insatisfaction result in the lack of embeddings controls in any system at any price ...

There is a difference between vinyl and cd but this does not nullify what i just said ...

Buying and upgrading is not the solution , embedding each component with the others in the best way is the solution ... It was the solution for me in these three occasions then i dont know anything else...

It is not easy work it ask for study and experiments...

By the way , i quit vinyl soon before the cd era because the printing was so bad i was frustrated as a demon in purified water ...

I listened after that only Bach heavy european vinyl albums which did not deteriorate ...

When cd entered the scene i bought them and i was frustrated by their horrible sound for decades ...😁

In the last decade we had very good digital reading technology ...😊 It was then at this moment i begun to study how to embed all components for the best ...

Today with a well chosen low cost dac in a well embedded system there is no more war between bad digital and good analog ...

What matter now for a MINIMAL ACOUSTIC SATISFACTION THRESHOLD is the embeddings method not the product price at all ...

But many people dont want to study experiment and think and look for easy short-cut as upgades but we must do our homework , because each system in each different room /house must be treated in some specfic way in their three working dimensions, mechanical,electrical, acoustical and if there is many recipe to adress the mechanical and electrical problems ,there is no easy recipe for the acoustical relation between room speakers and ears .. We must experiment ... it was my experience ...

To answer the OP , many pop recording and even in other genre , were badly pressed ...It was the reason i quit buying vinyl long ago ...It is not a bad stylus which for sure do not help the case ...