@carlsbad No worries Jerry. We're just two guys having a conversation about cables. I enjoy hearing other opinions and try to learn something new every day. That part is easier than i like to admit. 😂
Eric
Not Chinese Fakes But Not big $$$ Either
Tired and bored after reading 11 pages of posts about Chinese Counterfeit Cables (guilty of a couple entries myself), and looking for a DYI project, I decided to split the difference between Cheap Fakes and outrageous prices for name brand American made cables. After doing lots of research and reading I selected bulk "CHELA" speaker cable from VHAudio https://www.vhaudio.com/speakercables.html and connectors, shrink tube etc, from AV Outlet https://www.avoutlet.com/av-cables-connectors/av-connectors/speaker/furez-sp8-wp38xlnp/
This has been a fun project and a first for me. The total cost was +/- $400 per 8 foot cable. Given the quality of materials, such as 48 strand OCC copper wires, which translates to 10 AWG, I think the cost is very reasonable. I try to build as much as I can but mostly it has been woodworking in the past. I encourge everyone to try their hand at projects. It's always more rewarding than shoveling cash at retailers. If you're interested, here's the project in detail.
Cheers
@carlsbad No worries Jerry. We're just two guys having a conversation about cables. I enjoy hearing other opinions and try to learn something new every day. That part is easier than i like to admit. 😂 Eric |
Thanks for the nice comments to all who have looked. A review of the sound will have to wait until next spring. My stereo (version 4.0 since covid started) is awating the arrival of a pair of SoundLab Majestic 745's. Made two pairs of cables so I can bi-amp off a pair of Hegel H30's running in stereo mode. I'm excited but it will be a long winter. In the meantime................. I reckon a few of those who have disparaged Bose speakers in the past will be eating crow. 🤣 |
@carlsbad re name, i was hoping to attract the legion of posters who are buying knock off cables and demonstrate there is a wsy to buy local, cut costs and have some fun at the same time? But that's just me. 7 |
@carlsbad I have a stripper/crimper tool but it doesn’t go below 20 awg. With a new box cutter blade as shown, I only needed to put very light pressure on the blade and simply roll it over the wire. The covering came off easily and not one wire was knicked. I was surprised at how easy that part of the job was. |
@jrbirdman333 Skipped the gloves as I knew I would clean the wires before securing the spades. Cleaned them and used a polishing cloth. |
@dekay Thanks. In a perfect world, I have just build my last set of cables. 🤣 |
@dekay Any standard wire stripping tool has the crimping feature built in. On the link to the spades, click on the install instructions and you'll see a pair. You use the grove for 10 - 12 AWG. It does not take much pressure to put a solid crimp in these spades. At $5 a pair, order an extra set for trial. |
@carlsbad Re the copper purity, the Banana Plugs are 93% copper but the SP series spades "utilize C11000 100% IACS Copper which are the highest conductivity coppers available for their respective designs". Note sure how much of a difference it makes but I did like the idea of 100% copper. |
@carlsbad My experience with Banana plugs has not been that great. Not keeping a tight fit has been my big complaint. I have liked the locking style Furutech makes and the BFA style looks to be an improvement. Right or wrong, I thought the high-quality copper and conductivity would work. Really amazed they sell these spades for $5 per pair. They are solid and well constructed. Makes you wonder what kind of magic dust goes into the connectors you see for $200 each. |
@curiousjim Ha Ha. New speakers don't arrive until next May. But I will post at that time. |
@thyname If you scan up a dozen or more posts, you will see the Bose set up I'm using right now. It's Sweeeeeeeet. On Tues I head to Mexico until the end of April, so there is that going on. There's a place you would never want to own high end equipment as the heat and humidity ruin everything in time. But not to worry, as I have the same Bose set up there. 🤣 In the meantime, I go to sleep each night dreaming of these coming in the spring. SoundLab Majestic 745 with Garnet Red Grill |
@curiousjim The weight question is above my pay grade. I can only opine that the sum of all material required to build these monsters adds up to 185 pounds. If you are really interested in a detailed answer, contact Roger at roger@soundlabspeakers.com He will usually answer within a couple days. It's nice that the founder of the company still answers his own emails. |
@tksteingraber They sound as good as any cable I have owned. Was able to switch in and out with XLO Signature 3 - 5.2 and Silversmith Fidelium cables. I couldn't really tell the difference between the three sets. Maybe I don't belong to the Golden Ear Club, or maybe it's really difficult to hear a difference once you start comparing well build cables. Cost wise, I spent +/- $1000 (CDN) for an 8 foot pair. That made them the least expensive of the three sets by quite a bit. I really enjoyed the project. For me, building is always more enjoyable than simply buying. So in summary, I would say the cables are a winner. I have sold the XLO and the VH Audio Chela speaker cable is now in the system long term. |